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It's already happening in Bushwick and bed-stuy where have ya been? Bed stuy has some of the most beautiful housing stock in the city. Macon st, from nostrand down to Thomas Boyland is one of the most greeniest blocks in the city. Bed-stuy is an extension of Brownstone Brooklyn. Also it's central Brooklyn, 4 stops on the A train to downtown Brooklyn, convenient to the J, Z, L, A, C and if near Atlantic even can catch the 3/4/5 train and the LIRR. And Bushwick is an extension of Williamsburg along the L line, hipster that cant afford to stay in Williamsburg anymore next stop was Bushwick. I have seen tons of young white families with young kids buying brownstones in bed-stuy and crown heights. Their children are going to grow up and say they grew up in "do or die bedstuy", and the last time a white family said that was in the 50s.
Gentrification will continue because most people just want a cheap place to live in the city that's convenient near the trains. Maybe not on a Williamsburg level but it will occur and price out locals. Most people can't even afford to buy in bed stuy anymore with prices easily over 1 million average non renovated. It's getting crazy out here including all the development. I don't know when it's going to stop but realistically it is just getting started. Brooklyn has in no way caught up even close to Manhattan prices and rightfully so. But as downtown Brooklyn becomes more of a business commercial district, I can see it coming close.
Exactly. Downtown Brooklyn is rapidly developing as a business district, so you are going to see more gentrification deep into Brooklyn. Similarly in Queens LIC continues to develop as a commercial business district AND a resident neighborhood, so this pushes gentrification DEEP into Queens.
I did walk by that new Whole Foods yesterday. I didn't see how much traffic it got since I went around the backside of the supermarket and not past the entrance on Bedford, but I'm sure it'll be getting plenty of people. The funny thing is that there's a Foodtown supermarket a stone's throw away on N 3 St. The dichotomies in this city are funny sometimes.
Exactly. Downtown Brooklyn is rapidly developing as a business district, so you are going to see more gentrification deep into Brooklyn. Similarly in Queens LIC continues to develop as a commercial business district AND a resident neighborhood, so this pushes gentrification DEEP into Queens.
I can see Sunset Park being the next area in Brooklyn. Two stops on the express train and you're in Manhattan. One stop and you're in downtown Brooklyn.
Probably not...I think the gentrification of Brooklyn will probably loose steam at some point and level off. Might sound crazy but that's my prediction. All the low hanging fruit has been picked...the close in areas that have quick convenient train service into the city. Bushwick and Bed Stuy are very large areas that don't have as much going for them.
Disagree. Gentrification of a neighborhood rarely gets to a point and just stops. Maybe is slows down if the market cools but the trajectory is usually one of continual change. There are parts of BS and BW that aren't as accessible by train, that's true, but that doesn't mean they won't also change. It's likely the'll end up as the better valued parts of the neighborhood.
I can see Sunset Park being the next area in Brooklyn. Two stops on the express train and you're in Manhattan. One stop and you're in downtown Brooklyn.
Sunset park is a stable area, Prices are well over a million and the housing stock is low. That's why it seemed "skipped over" in the gentrification hype. You can't gentrify and already decent neighborhood. Not saying we won't see spill over there but it won't be the next hot spot for hipsters. They rather go deeper, grittier and cheaper, it makes them feel like they discovered something new.
Yeah I would say the south Bronx is a much more compelling area to develop than those farther out slummy areas of BK like ENY, Brownsville, Flatlands, Canarsie, etc that are just ugly and depressing. Brooklyn is a huge place and there are many areas of it that just aren't even worth bothering with trying to gentrify IMO.
Ummmm.....have u been to flatlands or canarsie???????
Sunset park is a stable area, Prices are well over a million and the housing stock is low. That's why it seemed "skipped over" in the gentrification hype. You can't gentrify and already decent neighborhood. Not saying we won't see spill over there but it won't be the next hot spot for hipsters. They rather go deeper, grittier and cheaper, it makes them feel like they discovered something new.
most of brooklyn is crud. some coastal areas, incredible. there isn't a general pull tho why the dodgers left in the first place and they signed jeremy lin to save the borough. the NW area has already been done. i absolutely love south bronx to yankee stadium and why they're still here and up along the grand concourse. i envision arched bridges every few blocks over the concourse for pedestrians like venice, and train line expansion. the buildings there are gorgeous, and is a function of time where they're completely gutted and restored. bronx was built for the middle class.. brooklyn the working class, lipsticked now to cost millions. nyc is no longer working class. bronx will symbolize the middle class of nyc going forward and will represent middle class of all races and why it will remain special. i was born in the bronx, i will always love the bronx. if you're RE savvy, you get in now and not 15 years from now when kids from ohio say the bronx is cool.
What would be the purpose of all these arched bridges every few blocks? You dont even find that in UES.....What kind of train line expansion you talking about bringing back the 8 (bka the 3rd ave El)?
The apts on grand concourse I doubt they needed to be gutted.....even during the arson years when LANDLORDS were burning their buildings in the Bronx, even back then they knew burning grand concourse would be architectural treason and heresy.
NYC is barely working class and at the rate its going there wont be a middle class. At one extreme it can become what williamsburg and greenwich village turned into and at worse itll just stay the way it is as it'll continue to be the warehouse (or the last stop) of poor and working class blacks and latinos in NY City. But even if the bronx gentrifies i hate to inform you but it wont go back to those so called glory days of middle class Jews Irish and Italian families selling egg creams on the main drag and signing doo wop on the street corners. those days are long gone....
Apple finally opened a store in the hipster Brooklyn neighborhood of Williamsburg, and it's as stylish as you'd ever hope for.
The Post Street location replicates a town square, paired with a delicate and airy feel. Williamsburg has gone in much the same direction.
The newest store -- the iPhone maker's first in Brooklyn -- also follows the same philosophy that Apple's design chief, Jony Ive, has brought to the company's retail locations. In late May, Apple kicked off a design overhaul embodied by its newest San Francisco store. Out with the perfectly white counters and glass boxes, and in with the smooth oak tables and warm earth tones.
How do you look Brooklyn but feel San Francisco? Just out of curiosity.
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