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View Poll Results: Is he guilty?
No 47 48.45%
Yes 50 51.55%
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:58 AM
 
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I can say without a doubt, they are. This is very high profile, and the cops are under a lot of pressure to make and arrest.

And if you're the mob, this murder is something you don't want to do. They'd have hit the father, which would have been a much lower profile crime. One thing that's happened with the mob since the whole series of major busts over the last few decades is that they've relearned discretion and secrecy. The last thing they want is to do a hit on a "civilian" female, even if the father was "involved", and have the cops and media crawling all over it.

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In these type of cases where its not clear-cut I don't see anything wrong with investigating everything and everyone.
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Old 08-17-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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the forensics showed a sexual assault. So vibe or not, you're likely wrong. And they have dna, so they can easily and definitively rule out suspects.

If you're hinting at the father, they'd likely have run her dna and the perp's dna they got off her body. If it were a relative that would show up. And i strongly suspect they ran the father's dna.

I'm a little surprised the haven't gotten a cold hit on someone else. sex offenders are usually not one hit wonders. Likely the perp has assaulted other people, working up to raping an murdering a stranger in a park. i would think either he'd have been arrested before and be in the database, or his dna would have shown up from a previous assault where dna was collected. However, if it's the latter, the police may be sitting on that fact.
Then why would a police official say "there is no known threat to the community at large"? Your scenario of a perp who has committed multiple assaults and worked up to rape and murder would certainly be a threat to the community. The police must know more than they are saying about a motive/perp.
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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It's a big city. The perp could be from some other area/borough, but found a hunting ground in that park. He may intentionally want to "work" away from where he lives. If this is the case, the local precinct wouldn't be seeing multiple crimes to form a pattern.

I'm almost expecting for this guy to hit again, likely somewhere else in the city. I'll also point out something else. There's a huge pattern of unsolved murders of women found in marshes around the extended NY area. I'm specifically thinking of the LI Ocean Parkway bodies, and also in Atlantic City. This may be a stretch. But if I was in the NYPD, I'd be looking at those for anything like a match to this one.

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Then why would a police official say "there is no known threat to the community at large"? Your scenario of a perp who has committed multiple assaults and worked up to rape and murder would certainly be a threat to the community. The police must know more than they are saying about a motive/perp.
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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I don't think anyone here thinks the father did it himself but there are some suspicions about his businesses and that maybe someone might have done this as retribution.
I agree with this ^^^^^^^

Nobody in his right mind would think that the father did the actual killing.
But I think that they got Karina who was punished for what her father did earlier on, yes, in suspicious business deals. And...I still suspect her boyfriend with whom she broke up 2 days ago. He was cleared by alibi, but it would not be the first time that somebody was cleared by a falsely given alibi.

NO way was this a random killing. A homeless guy using a condom, and leaving it at the scene....hahaha, don't make me laugh. I think the condom's intent was to frame somebody.

And......I never read a Harry Potter book, so I cannot even GO back to that..;-)))))
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Old 08-17-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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I still think the mother knows something the way she talks about the killer and addresses the individual. The whole thing doesn't add up...
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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I still think the mother knows something the way she talks about the killer and addresses the individual. The whole thing doesn't add up...

The mother is a typical Italian-American mom angry at someone who messed with their child. If she did no something odds are things would be like Mrs. Gotti after that guy who ran over her son suddenly went missing..... In other words you'd be hearing crickets.
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Old 08-17-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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If the killer was in fact mob-connected, nobody is going to turn him in to the police unless they want to get whacked themselves.
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Old 08-17-2016, 03:08 PM
 
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If the killer was in fact mob-connected, nobody is going to turn him in to the police unless they want to get whacked themselves.

Unless this was some Zip right off the boat, no one would do such a thing to anyone's daughter. I mean this ain't like Tracee from the Sopranos ( and even what happened there was not totally legit).


Now if the son or whatever of a "friend of theirs" did this, it would likely be taken care of internally and some sort of message gotten back to the father. An act like this brings disgrace on a family, not glory.
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Old 08-17-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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If the killer was in fact mob-connected, nobody is going to turn him in to the police unless they want to get whacked themselves.
Exactly this ^^^^^^^
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:58 PM
 
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If the killer was in fact mob-connected, nobody is going to turn him in to the police unless they want to get whacked themselves.
I love these "theories". Maybe the Candyman got her. Maybe it was Son of Sam. Maybe it was the ghost of John Gotti.
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