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Old 08-08-2016, 10:10 PM
 
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Strange how her father knew where the body was. I'm sure the police have questioned him in detail though.
I was reading an article about this on dnainfo or gothamist

I can't remember at the moment..anyway, one person kept alluding that her and her father had a very very "close" relationship. And the day he didn't go jogging with her, she ends up dead. AND he found the body.

Probably hogwash, but something to think about.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:56 PM
 
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I was reading an article about this on dnainfo or gothamist

I can't remember at the moment..anyway, one person kept alluding that her and her father had a very very "close" relationship. And the day he didn't go jogging with her, she ends up dead. AND he found the body.

Probably hogwash, but something to think about.

Some of you have very nasty minds..




"Karina Vetrano, 30, was killed last Tuesday night, during a 5 p.m. run through Howard Beach. Her father, who usually ran with her but didn't that night due a back injury, contacted the police when she didn't return home or answer her phone. At 11 p.m., police tracked her cellphone to Spring Creek Park near 161 Avenue and 78 Street; her father, who had joined the search, was the first to see his daughter's body. "




Slain Jogger's Mother To Killer: You're A "Pathetic, Puny Piece Of Filth": Gothamist


The father was at home with the rest of family when daughter left the house *ALIVE*. He contacted LE when the girl did not return home by 11PM and didn't answer her phone. So how was he supposed to slip out, do this horrible thing and yet get back home to contact NYPD? Given the violence of the attack surely the perp would have some marks. The father shows nothing.


Listen to the more educated comments from those who live/know that area, then speak.
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Old 08-09-2016, 04:17 AM
 
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Didn't realize this is the same place where that guy committed suicide (hanged himself) a few months back. Prior to that two young students were found shot to death after a brush fire was put out.


Who Murdered NYC Jogger Karina Vetrano? - The Daily Beast


Any way this is going to be difficult to solve. Camera footage shows the young lady jogging into the park, but that so far is all they have to go on.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Didn't realize this is the same place where that guy committed suicide (hanged himself) a few months back. Prior to that two young students were found shot to death after a brush fire was put out.


Who Murdered NYC Jogger Karina Vetrano? - The Daily Beast


Any way this is going to be difficult to solve. Camera footage shows the young lady jogging into the park, but that so far is all they have to go on.
Yeah this will be tough. So much current police work relies on video footage or tracking of cell phones and it's not looking promising on that end. And even by old-school standards this is a tough case because it was in a remote location and witnesses aren't likely. I think the police will hope it is a serial rapist and they can tie the suspect to similarly done crimes.
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Old 08-09-2016, 05:33 AM
 
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Yeah this will be tough. So much current police work relies on video footage or tracking of cell phones and it's not looking promising on that end. And even by old-school standards this is a tough case because it was in a remote location and witnesses aren't likely. I think the police will hope it is a serial rapist and they can tie the suspect to similarly done crimes.
Time frame is also an issue.


Girl went jogging at 5pm, the call about her missing didn't come until 11pm or so. Even if the guy didn't jump her until say 8pm or even 9pm he still could be long gone by 11pm.


Am leaning that it was later because the sun doesn't set until around 8pm, so it is still rather light out.


Still don't know why this poor young girl went jogging in that area when she had been warned by her father (many times IIRC) to avoid the place, and even most local residents don't go near the place. If grown men being interviewed say they avoid the Weeds, females certainly shouldn't be near. This girl grew up in HB and thus new the reputation of that area.


Am not hating or blaming, just so sad another young life snuffed out for being in the wrong place at wrong time.


I grew up/know areas like "the Weeds" on Staten Island. It is basically marsh/wet lands with tall grass (we used to call them cat tails) growing. These areas make great hiding places to play games for both human and animal children because you literally can get "lost" or become invisible in those dense weeds.


OTOH anything can also be hiding or hidden in that dense marsh land grass. It is the same sort of place as much of the Meadowlands in NJ IIRC, and we know what has been dumped out there over the years (...leave the gun, take the cannolis....).




Am thinking (hoping) they catch a break and it doesn't end up like all those girls they found out by Gilgo Beach.
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Old 08-09-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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It's quite sloppy that the suspect left DNA, or committed a crime that risked him/her doing so. What kind of a criminal would do this?
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Plandome, NY
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It's quite sloppy that the suspect left DNA, or committed a crime that risked him/her doing so. What kind of a criminal would do this?
how can a criminal not leave a DNA? Wear a full body condom? shave every hair off his body? Burn down the weeded area?
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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how can a criminal not leave a DNA? Wear a full body condom? shave every hair off his body? Burn down the weeded area?

Or burn the body, which is what happened in the MA jogger case. Look also at the Gilgo beach murders - no DNA found yet.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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It's quite sloppy that the suspect left DNA, or committed a crime that risked him/her doing so. What kind of a criminal would do this?
I would say 99% of criminals leave some form of dna evidence at scene. The minority are the ones that are like some professional assassin ninja. But from the police side DNA is only effective if you have someone to link it to.
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Old 08-09-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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Or burn the body, which is what happened in the MA jogger case. Look also at the Gilgo beach murders - no DNA found yet.
Like they say everybody has a plan until they get bitten to the bone.
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