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Old 08-15-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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Seems like the RTS's are going the way of the Orion Vs.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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as someone with lots of knee problems, i hate hate hate the rts bus. It is even worse on the newer low floor buses when some drivers dont kneel the bus..urrgh
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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I used to love riding on the right side of these buses when I was little.
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Old 08-16-2016, 11:59 AM
 
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I don't know the specifics of each of those, but it seems to me that the MTA has a long pattern of progressing to worse buses. For instance, they used to have a model where you could read the head from far away because it was so clear. That's gone.


At the moment, they seem to be phasing out what I think you're calling the Nova in favor of the doubled articulated buses. This means they can save money on staff by having fewer, longer buses. They don't care that this mean much longer wait times for passengers, the inability of drivers to see what's going on, etc.
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Old 08-16-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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I don't know the specifics of each of those, but it seems to me that the MTA has a long pattern of progressing to worse buses. For instance, they used to have a model where you could read the head from far away because it was so clear. That's gone.


At the moment, they seem to be phasing out what I think you're calling the Nova in favor of the doubled articulated buses. This means they can save money on staff by having fewer, longer buses. They don't care that this mean much longer wait times for passengers, the inability of drivers to see what's going on, etc.
By head, do you mean destination sign? If so, I disagree. I thought the RTS's were horrible in that respect. The newer ones are much brighter and easier to read.

On routes with the articulated buses, do they actually run less often? I don't get the feeling they do, but it's just a guess on my part.
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Old 08-16-2016, 03:33 PM
 
Location: New York City
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The Q50 (Co-Op's to Flushing) uses an all RTS fleet.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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Anyone else (whose a bus fan) noticed lately that the Novabus RTS 0-6 is becoming rarer and rarer as time progress (especially in Brooklyn)? I remember 5-10 years ago, that it was pretty much impossible to go 5 minutes without seeing 1 or 2 of these buses. Now, the only places you can still find them (somewhat) are in Downtown Brooklyn, Kings Plaza, or Williamsburg plaza. Just about everywhere else, all I see is New Flyer XD40s, New Flyer C40LF CNGs, and Orion VII OG/NG hybrids (and occasionally CNGs). And when I do see RTS's these days, they are usually in the #4900-5249 group. It's as if everything else outside of that series RTS-wise is retired. Any thoughts on this?
I still see them in my area of Brooklyn. Most of them are pretty grimy these days.
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Old 08-16-2016, 04:45 PM
 
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I remember there were some RTS buses as recently as 2009 that had analog roll signs. This was fleet absorbed through "MTA Bus" taking over the routes of the private companies.

Related question, why did these routes become "MTA Bus" instead of just getting absorbed into NYCT Bus?
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Old 08-16-2016, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I remember there were some RTS buses as recently as 2009 that had analog roll signs. This was fleet absorbed through "MTA Bus" taking over the routes of the private companies.

Related question, why did these routes become "MTA Bus" instead of just getting absorbed into NYCT Bus?
My guess is it has to do with funding.
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Old 08-16-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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Some provide service on the Q50 from Co-op City over the Whitestone Bridge to Flushing.


[IMG]Q50 in Whitestone by sphoto33, on Flickr[/IMG]

Their front route signs are often difficult to read. This one was built in 1999.
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