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Old 09-28-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Bye bye Bushwick: The Bronx is the city's next new arts scene

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"As the sole subway-linked borough that still boasts affordable rents and an abundance of raw space for studios, the Bronx is emerging as a fast-growing hub for the arts. Artists are moving in from around New York City and farther afield, galleries are popping up, and nonprofit arts organizations are opening or expanding, staging world-class shows that are bringing in more outsiders.

Like many former artist frontiers around the city—SoHo, Chelsea, Alphabet City, Bushwick—the economic impact of the developing Bronx arts scene can be measured in rising rents and the growing number of residents with college degrees. That is especially true in the long-forgotten South Bronx neighborhoods. According to the NYU Furman Center for Real Estate and Urban Policy, rents in the Mott Haven/Hunts Point section have risen 33.2% from 2000 to 2014, a dramatic contrast to the 3.9% decline in the 1990s.
Jessica Yager, executive director of the Furman Center, said the area’s appeal may be its commuter accessibility. “Of the city’s 59 community districts, it has the highest share of residential units located within a half-mile of a subway station,” she said. The Furman Center reports that the share of college-
educated residents in the area has grown from 4.8% to 9.2% of the population from 2000 to 2014."
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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bittersweet.

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rents in the Mott Haven/Hunts Point section have risen 33.2% from 2000 to 2014

Is that really a good thing? I don't think so.

There's more to life than "art".
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I would assume that eny or Bedstuy would he the next art center for nyc up and coming artists. Especially since the art scene started out in the East Village, moved to the les, than moved to Williamsburg, than into Bushwick? It's only logic that the art scene moves along the L line. Instead the art scene wants to pack up, and moved to the south bronx.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:11 PM
 
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Bushwick is clearly the hottest hipster neighborhood eight now IMO, Mott Haven isn't there yet.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Bushwick barely even started gentrifying.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:35 PM
 
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I would assume that eny or Bedstuy would he the next art center for nyc up and coming artists. Especially since the art scene started out in the East Village, moved to the les, than moved to Williamsburg, than into Bushwick? It's only logic that the art scene moves along the L line. Instead the art scene wants to pack up, and moved to the south bronx.
I think you're probably right, at least for the artists who can afford those prices. For those who can't, they are picking up and moving to the Bronx. Skipping Queens because Jamaica is too far from both Brooklyn and Manhattan, and skipping Long Island City because the rents are already at Brooklyn-Manhattan levels. (Maspeth could be an option but it is severely non-transit-friendly)

There's a building in Brownsville being developed as artists studios. I posted the link in another thread.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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I guess none of this really makes that much sense at all, seeing as how bushwick is still largely a disgusting rathole.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:59 PM
 
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Pretty much untrue. Bushwick isn't that gentrified and still has somewhat affordable, though smaller, spaces in which people can operate a studio. People trying to do work but want to remain in contact with the greater community including other artists as well as galleries, move further into Bushwick and nearby regions away from the train lines or up into Ridgewood or further east.

The main point is that this is not the same arts community (and there is more than one) and the one streaming into the Bronx is mostly detached from what went into Bushwick. There is a strong geographic and accessibility continuity that linked Greenwich Village, West Village, Soho, Tribeca, Chelsea, East Village, DUMBO, Williamsburg, Greenpoint, LIC, Bushwick, etc. that emanated out from lower manhattan. This is not the same, though is an arts community as well--just not quite the same one. NYC supports a lot of arts in total, but they aren't all necessarily an extension of each other which in turn makes this article inaccurate. The South Bronx one is a lot less driven by transplants as all the others were.

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Old 09-28-2016, 11:10 PM
 
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Much of the raw space in Bushwick that could be used by artists/creatives is already rented out, and so the rent prices for studios have grown high in Bushwick.

The South Bronx has a lot of warehouse space that could be rented out.
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Old 09-28-2016, 11:17 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Bushwick barely even started gentrifying.
Mostly true as the stats would show how overplayed the gentrification is. Within Bushwick proper, the much larger change isn't the young transplants coming in though they do congregate heavily around the L train (though that is significant), but that the Hispanic community has had a large shift from Puerto Rican and some Dominican into a much heavier Mexican presence. This isn't as obvious as a cursory glance at the census stats simply talk to the relatively minor shift from Hispanic to White while obfuscating the more major shift within the Hispanic community itself.

The L train shutdown is likely going to cause gentrification to shift further south into the J/M/Z lines while the L lines cool off, though not reverse.
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