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Old 10-10-2016, 07:29 PM
 
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I've been to High Line a couple of times. While some are locals, there appeared to be a significant percentage of out of towers.
Anywhere you see the fake monks, then you know you are near a large number of tourists. The fake monks are everywhere on the High Line. They know they can't scam money out of New Yorkers (since we are on to their game) so they flock to tourist areas like the High Line.

The High Line Is Struggling With "Aggressive" Fake Monks : Gothamist
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:28 PM
 
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Air traffic is flat. Or down, if you take NY State employment (of that industry). 8,000 fewer than its peak.

There is business travel - but it's less concentrated in NYC (think Boston, Atlanta, Houston, SF Bay Area, etc.). Digital-tech can be anywhere.

Hotel rates are city-wide.

I think they're counting resident-trips as 'visitors'. There is more to do - and folks are getting the most, for what they pay to live here.
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:49 PM
 
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Air traffic is flat. Or down, if you take NY State employment (of that industry). 8,000 fewer than its peak.
As of the end of 2014, air traffic in NYC was reported at an all time high, having increased 3% from 2013 to 2014.

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ts-record-high

Then in 2015, a new record was set. NYC's Airports Had More Passengers Than Ever in 2015
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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It doesn't matter - many of these trips are out-of-towners - CT., NY State, etc...
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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It doesn't matter - many of these trips are out-of-towners - CT., NY State, etc...
You say air traffic is flat (and don't cite any source). When I show you that it's not flat and actually rising by a few percentage points per year, instead of admitting you're wrong, you say, "It doesn't matter."

When someone else tells you the High Line is full of tourists, you hold fast to your theory that all those people are actually residents and only a few are tourists.

OK, so everything we tell you, you think is wrong or say it doesn't matter. Exactly why did you post this thread? To get feedback so you can say our feedback is wrong or useless? OK.
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Old 10-10-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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I'm new here, so I don't know if this topic was brought up.

The city says 60 million people will visit the 5 boroughs this year. OK...but this is almost *twice* as many as the early 1990s.

I was puzzled that the city didn't site reasons for this (super) sharp increase.

The problems are as follows:

The rise began in 2003, when people were afraid to travel by air (after 9-11). Even afraid to visit New York, outright.

Numbers surged past 2008, during the economic collapse -*very* high unemployment.

High gas prices, for day-trippers, during the depression.

Higher airfares - inc. carry-on fees

Train wrecks - scaring people away.

A stronger dollar - reducing international tourists (save the U.K.).

There's nothing to indicate a rise in tourism. Let alone the biggest rise (of any city) in history.

Check the numbers - the Met Museum had 5.5 million visits 20 years ago, now it has a million more, Broadway tickets are up -but barely, there's no rise in visits to Central Park, traffic is flat -according to NY magazine. Shouldn't we have more taxis trips ?

Hotel occupancy was 85% during the 'boom' years. But with 10 to 20 million more visits, wouldn't this be 100% ? Esp. when there were (only) 80,000 rooms city-wide. Now there's 110,000.

If someone can explain this, it would certainly help. If not, we should assume that these are Phantom Visitors to NYC....
That sounds very high, nobody visits Staten Island except daily commuters passing thru or Tourists riding round trip on the Staten Island Ferry. They leave the boat walk thru terminal,return to Manhattan.
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