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Old 12-05-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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And I am not really following your grammar here...




Well after reading it again, a couple of things. She didn't get attacked, she got yelled at according to this account. I've gotten worse yelled at me from road rage bullsh!t over the course of my life, with my race clearly spelled out in said verbal lashing. Big deal. Her son did indeed get shoved though, according to the article. So let's say this is true, that her son got shoved. Is this anything new? There have been biased attacks going on for as long as this city has existed. There have always been articles like this. Plenty over the course of the past 8 years. This is nothing new. My point in making the thread was, again, to see if any of this massive uptick in biased attacks towards minorities have been captured on any of the 8 million smartphone cameras that are regularly whipped out on a consistent basis. I don't know how many times I need to clarify that. Because all I have seen is footage of some white guy being beaten down.
Exactly these are just more incidents of the same being reported, people getting harassed or getting called racial slurs, that was the up tick most of the media has been talking about. I think evidence that you are looking for (racially motivated violence), don't think that's happening as much and doubt much in NY.
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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Exactly these are just more incidents of the same being reported, people getting harassed or getting called racial slurs, that was the up tick most of the media has been talking about. I think evidence that you are looking for (racially motivated violence), don't think that's happening as much and doubt much in NY.

But I am not sure you understand the meaning of "uptick" then.

And I assume will never accept the fact that many of these false allegations around the country have been shown to be just that...
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Old 12-05-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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According to the FBI website there was a 6% uptick on hate crimes from last year, so not sure if you consider that an uptick, maybe it has nothing to do with the president elect, I don't know where that 400% uptick came from either but we will get stats for this year until next year.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pr...ime-statistics

Also appears only some were proven to be fake not all but I guess your sources do not go out of their way to prove the real ones either...

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Old 12-05-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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I'd assume gays and Jews are still the primary recipient of hate crimes in NYC. Not Muslims and Mexicans. But the later is what still seems to be reported. Not so much Mexicans, but the media has their telescopes out to uncover any possible Muslim related attack.
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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I'd assume gays and Jews are still the primary recipient of hate crimes in NYC. Not Muslims and Mexicans. But the later is what still seems to be reported. Not so much Mexicans, but the media has their telescopes out to uncover any possible Muslim related attack.
Yes they usually cover what ever trend they want to sell at the time.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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'Hero' Muslim cop, her son harassed by bigot in Brooklyn - NY Daily News
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Old 12-05-2016, 04:27 PM
 
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I was wondering where the 400% number came from and I just read that it was the 2 week period following election day compared to the same period last year:

Bias Incidents Have Spiked 400 Percent Since Election Day: NYPD | NBC New York

Regarding the OP, I think asking for video evidence is kind of pointless. There is no video for most crimes anyway so no one is going to be able to prove or disprove anything. One thing worth mentioning is that victims are probably more likely to report these crimes now than before given recent political events. So in that sense, I think the y/y percentage increase is probably inflated (that is, the percentage increase in crimes reported is greater than the percentage increase in crimes committed). But I really see no reason to question that these hate incidents have indeed been on the rise in recent weeks/months.

Here are a couple of other local reports along with some more stats:

Muslim MTA Worker Called 'Terrorist,' Pushed Down Stairs at Grand Central Terminal: Officials | NBC New York
Muslim Woman Harassed on Subway by 3 Men Who Call Her 'Terrorist,' Chant Trump's Name: NYPD | NBC New York

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In New York City, hate crime has spiked 115 percent since Election Day, with 43 cases reported compared with 20 cases in the same period in 2015, according to NYPD Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce. Bias against Muslims has doubled, with four cases reported since Election Day compared with two reported in the same time period last year.

Overall, hate crimes are up 35 percent year over year, with a 45 percent uptick in arrests, Boyce said.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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But I really see no reason to question that these hate incidents have indeed been on the rise in recent weeks/months.
Well, I personally do:


Man admits to faking hate crime in Malden



Lafayette woman faces criminal charges after falsely claiming Trump supporters robbed her


Gay Canadian claims Trump supporters beat him up


BG police say student lied about politically driven attack


A woman from Kirkland, Washington has admitted that she lied and fabricated a story of sexual assault, claiming that she did so as she was “distraught over the recent election.”



Two Williams College students are now facing disciplinary action after hoaxing vandalism which appeared to be Ku Klux Klan (KKK) inspired days after the 2016 Election.


Hateful 'Trump' Notes Allegedly Aimed at Student Were Fabricated, University Says


Woman Made Up 'Terrorist' Slashing Story, Cut Her Own Face: NYPD



Just a little taste. There is plenty more where that came from, if you're interested.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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The media will now report every magic marker swastika that is found anywhere. Doesn't matter if it is some loser who would have done it if Hillary were elected. Doesn't matter if it's a Social Justice Warrior who is trying to prove that hate crimes are up.

The classic example is the sloppy swastika with Trump's name sprayed in the Brooklyn Park. No self-respecting Neo-Nazi would have scrawled such a mess.

And it got the desired reaction. Big march in Brooklyn Heights led by every self-serving politician looking to get publicity.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:50 PM
 
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The media will now report every magic marker swastika that is found anywhere. Doesn't matter if it is some loser who would have done it if Hillary were elected. Doesn't matter if it's a Social Justice Warrior who is trying to prove that hate crimes are up.

The classic example is the sloppy swastika with Trump's name sprayed in the Brooklyn Park. No self-respecting Neo-Nazi would have scrawled such a mess.

And it got the desired reaction. Big march in Brooklyn Heights led by every self-serving politician looking to get publicity.
Yup, good post. I meant to bring up that sloppy, backwards swastika. So absolutely transparent..
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