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Old 12-04-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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Dear all,

One of us is offered a job at Manhattan and also a job in Southern California. The other one will be looking for a job in IT/Data Science. Pros and Cons of living in New York instead of Orange County.

Pros for NYC:
1. Salary is higher (about 220-230k, about 40k higher than OC), position is higher in rank of social hierarchy;
2. Spouse can easily find a job.

Cons for NYC:
1. we will need to have a house for the growing family. So the best option would be either a place in Westchester County or New Jersey;
2. Long commute time for both of us if living far away: 1 hour door to door one way is minimum; Does it wear you out after a while?
3. School district is our biggest concerns, not many good choices;
4. much higher property tax.

We would appreciate if any of you could give us some advice/insights on possibly living in commuter communities in NYC. Thank you!
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Old 12-04-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Isn't the commute in socal a pain as well? I dont think you can go wrong with nj or westchester for s hools. In general, westchestet if job is in midtown. Nj if the job is in downtown.
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Old 12-04-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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Isn't the commute in socal a pain as well? I dont think you can go wrong with nj or westchester for s hools. In general, westchestet if job is in midtown. Nj if the job is in downtown.
It's a pain as well in so cal, but usually takes less than 40 minutes if living not too far away. We looked into quite a few areas near Manhattan, but none of them seems to have good schools (i.e. ratings above 7 on a scale of 10 based on school rating reports).
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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It's a pain as well in so cal, but usually takes less than 40 minutes if living not too far away. We looked into quite a few areas near Manhattan, but none of them seems to have good schools (i.e. ratings above 7 on a scale of 10 based on school rating reports).
Difference is water. NYC is on an island, and there are a finite number of ways for the quarter million+ people coming from NJ every day to get over or under a mile-wide river.

NJ has some towns with great schools, but they aren't within a 40-minute commute. The usual recommendations like Ridgewood or Westfield are at least an hour door to door, depending upon where in the city you work.

This map helps.

The New York Times > New York Region > Image > Travel Times on Commuter Rail
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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1. we will need to have a house for the growing family. So the best option would be either a place in Westchester County or New Jersey;
Why do you NEED to have a house. Many families live in apartments. Also there are housing in NYC.
Or is it more of you want a house.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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An hour on a train is much less taxing than an hour on a freeway in southern California. I would say the biggest con is winter. The person looking for IT/Data job might be able to find one in the suburbs, and not have the same commute.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:59 AM
 
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There are a lot of jobs in the NYC area. If you do choose NJ, there are places like Prudential and Panasonic in Newark. SoCal's market always seemed hard to get into comparatively.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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NJ has some towns with great schools, but they aren't within a 40-minute commute. The usual recommendations like Ridgewood or Westfield are at least an hour door to door, depending upon where in the city you work.

This map helps.

The New York Times > New York Region > Image > Travel Times on Commuter Rail

And there is the transfer at Penn Station that needs to be factored in as well. If the commuter is working in midtown, Westchester might be a better option.
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Old 12-06-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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Difference is water. NYC is on an island, and there are a finite number of ways for the quarter million+ people coming from NJ every day to get over or under a mile-wide river.

NJ has some towns with great schools, but they aren't within a 40-minute commute. The usual recommendations like Ridgewood or Westfield are at least an hour door to door, depending upon where in the city you work.

This map helps.

The New York Times > New York Region > Image > Travel Times on Commuter Rail
Thank you. I guess one of us has to commute (that would be me), and my spouse would have to look for a job either in NJ or in Westchester county area.
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Old 12-06-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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Why do you NEED to have a house. Many families live in apartments. Also there are housing in NYC.
Or is it more of you want a house.
I understand, but we plan to have children, living in NYC is simply too....not ideal for us.
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