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Old 09-28-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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Does anyone know where (in which code/law/section) there is a requirement for a 12" non-combustible smoke drop for kitchenettes?
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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Protean,
What is a "smoke drop?" Perhaps the distance from the range top to a combustible surface above? That is usually 30 inches.

I would love to put a shelf above my stove for my microwave, toaster etc. but I don't want to run afoul of any building inspections. Thirty inches up is too high to be handy and I can't find any appropriate metal shelves for 24 inches.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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Does anyone know where (in which code/law/section) there is a requirement for a 12" non-combustible smoke drop for kitchenettes?
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it's called a soffit.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/download...ode/bc27s5.pdf
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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Protean,
What is a "smoke drop?" Perhaps the distance from the range top to a combustible surface above? That is usually 30 inches.

I would love to put a shelf above my stove for my microwave, toaster etc. but I don't want to run afoul of any building inspections. Thirty inches up is too high to be handy and I can't find any appropriate metal shelves for 24 inches.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:48 AM
 
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Seventh Floor,
Why would they call a soffit a "smoke drop?" Is there some sort of exhast fan in the "smoke drop," perhaps a soffit routing cooking smells outdoor?

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Does anyone know where (in which code/law/section) there is a requirement for a 12" non-combustible smoke drop for kitchenettes?
And who can possibly imagine that all kitchens be required to have a 12 inch soffit?

I'm confused.

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Old 09-30-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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Seventh Floor,
Why would they call a soffit a "smoke drop?" Is there some sort of exhast fan in the "smoke drop," perhaps a soffit routing cooking smells outdoor?


And who can possibly imagine that all kitchens be required to have a 12 inch soffit?

I'm confused.
No...think of a kitchen without walls.....like many of these new places that have combo living/dining room. instead of the wall coming down fully to separate the kitchen from the living room, the wall comes down only 12" from the ceiling, on the border of the kitchen. Thats the soffit. It is for the purpose to keep smoke from spreading rapidly all over the house, and contains it to the kitchen only.

FYI the soffit is only a requirement for kitchenettes, I forgot how much sq ft is considered a kitchenette.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:32 PM
 
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So then a kitchenette cannot actually be part and parcel of the "open concept" it needs a 12 inch soffit, aka smoke drop, to separate it from the rest of the "openess?"

Do I have that right?


Jeez, as if a 12 inch drop wil lhelp with a grease fire in the "kitchenette?"

If there is such a regulation, it seems a silly one.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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The only requirement I can find in the code posted is a note which isn't even referenced in the fire rating table, which states that kitchens of less than 49 square feet must be separated from other spaces by a partition with a fire rating of 1 hour, except the entrances which have no requirement at all. Nothing about a soffit. But it could be elsewhere in the code.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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We are taking down the wall between our kitchen (approx 84 sq ft) and living room and building an island. Not moving any appliances, so new stove will be installed in island exactly where it was before. Bldg built in 1965, ceilings are 8'. Is a soffit required above the island or between the cabinet tops and ceiling on the kitchen wall? If so, ehst's the least height it needs to be? I've heard rumors, but can't make head or tails of the building code manual. Please help!
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