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Old 10-24-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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Cuomo recently signed the legislation pursued by the hotel lobby. However this is hardly the end of this, as Airbnb is SUING NY and the federal courts may throw out the NYS law as UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
NY enacts restrictions on Airbnb, with fines of up to $7,500 | Fox News

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/22/te...rbnb.html?_r=0
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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I hope Air B&B wins out. I keep meaning to write to Liz Krueger to tell her she's wrong on this. It seems to me that any building has the right to ban sublets, and I wouldn't even have a problem with a law that specifically targeted landlords who do back-to-back B&B rentals forever.

But I think it's totally wrong to come down on residents who want to rent out their place once or twice a year, maybe if they're on vacation for a month, maybe if they want to profit from a political convention in town. The law against them is just pandering to overpriced hotel rooms (i.e. greedy corporations).
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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hotel lobbies are the real evil. They want their monopoly
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Even if they lose nobody is really monitoring this, they said someone would have to go into the Airbnb website and scan through hundreds of listings. Then submit a complaint, still trying to figure out how they would know if the complaint is actually valid and how they would enforce it?
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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One day there will be an app that lets minors buy alcohol online, poured directly into a cup, of just the size they need.

Sure. The laws exist right now to prohibit this from happening, but it's only because lobbyist groups and BIG ALCOHOL are trying to control us.


AirBNB is a great -concept- but the problem is that the majority of listings are violation of city laws regarding SHORT TERM RENTALS. Of course the company plays the 'it isn't us card' and those listing the units plead ignorance.

This has ALWAYS been against the law. These new 'app' agencies just hope to gain enough public support to turn a blind eye or change the law.
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Even if they lose nobody is really monitoring this, they said someone would have to go into the Airbnb website and scan through hundreds of listings. Then submit a complaint, still trying to figure out how they would know if the complaint is actually valid and how they would enforce it?
The city has many employees who could do this. Also, what's to stop another tenant in a building who suspects one of their neighbors is doing this, looks for the listing, finds it and then reports it?

Our development actually hires private investigators to look for listings, respond to them, meet with the tenants who are renting them out and that's enough to bust them apparently.
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Old 10-24-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The city has many employees who could do this. Also, what's to stop another tenant in a building who suspects one of their neighbors is doing this, looks for the listing, finds it and then reports it?

Our development actually hires private investigators to look for listings, respond to them, meet with the tenants who are renting them out and that's enough to bust them apparently.
They almost explicitly said they would only act on complaints not have government employees sifting through listings.
Yes but developments would have already been doing this since it was already against the law, what I am trying to figure out what him signing actually changes now?
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Old 10-24-2016, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Scary how something can go from legal to illegal just like that.
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Old 10-24-2016, 06:17 PM
 
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The city has many employees who could do this. Also, what's to stop another tenant in a building who suspects one of their neighbors is doing this, looks for the listing, finds it and then reports it?

Our development actually hires private investigators to look for listings, respond to them, meet with the tenants who are renting them out and that's enough to bust them apparently.

It would be pathetic to imagine that the city has nothing better to do with its time and money.

I'm sure tenants would in fact do that - they've done that with illegal long-term sublets. My take, though, is that it's wrong to interfere with individuals doing this once or twice for short periods. It would make a lot more sense, instead of your development harassing people for breaking a stupid rule, to create sensible guidelines.
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Old 10-24-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Scary how something can go from legal to illegal just like that.
It has almost always been illegal, just was not necessary to enforce on the small scale.

Multiple dwelling laws require 30 days minimum for a stay.
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