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View Poll Results: What Shoud. Be Done With BQE?
Bury it like the "Big Dig" 15 65.22%
Make it street level like West Side Highway 1 4.35%
Rebuild and replace the current elevated highway with another 2 8.70%
Repair the current highway and keep things as they are. 5 21.74%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-04-2016, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Blue Ridge
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City is finally getting ready to do major (and much needed) road work on the BQE. However the larger question remains, are there alternatives to the current raised roadway? This comes as the Brooklyn waterfront increasingly has become prime residential and recreational real estate.

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At the time of Robert Moses, it was supposed to be a below level parkway just like other parts of it are now. But the people with money and political power said no to that and what is seen today "is" the alternative.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:24 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The Effin BQE has been under repairs ever since I was a kid. This thing is a huge pile of wasteful spending while China already had cities built in the same time it takes NYC pouring billions down this drain.
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Old 12-05-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: plano
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Road like 'bqe' and others reminded me of small Latin American countries.looks .Ile it'd not been maintained in decades. I left the city fax as I could won't be back unless for another memorial. Lived there long enough to not need a visit as tourist.
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Old 12-05-2016, 08:50 PM
 
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If Moses had this way, we'd have the Cross-Brooklyn expressway and maybe a couple other other highways that would alleviate the constant bottlenecks on the BQE.

The BQE is a perpetual nightmare...but sometimes a necessary evil. Getting from parts of Queens to South Brooklyn is grueling if you take streets, so much that the decrepit and cramped BQE is sadly easier.

I think rebuilding above ground is sufficient in most spots, but that proposed stretch of tunnel that would bypass the "dog ear" around Brooklyn Heights and keep a straight path instead is a great idea.
Moses was a complete jacka*s. Look at the Prospect Expressway. It destroyed a section of the beautiful Ocean Parkway. And if he enough time and money, he would have continued it to Coney Island and destroyed the rest of Ocean Parkway.

Moses was also going to plow the BQE right through the heart of Brooklyn Heights, but the residents were able to shift it to the river.

His Lower Manhattan Expressway would have destroyed Soho, and created another bumper-to-bumper Cross Bronx Expressway style mess across Manhattan.

Instead of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, he wanted and almost got a bridge (bridges are cool, tunnels are nothing), which would have destroyed lower Manhattan.

I can go on and on. The guy would have plowed under the entire city with highways if he had his way.
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Old 12-05-2016, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Moses was a complete jacka*s. Look at the Prospect Expressway. It destroyed a section of the beautiful Ocean Parkway. And if he enough time and money, he would have continued it to Coney Island and destroyed the rest of Ocean Parkway.

Moses was also going to plow the BQE right through the heart of Brooklyn Heights, but the residents were able to shift it to the river.

His Lower Manhattan Expressway would have destroyed Soho, and created another bumper-to-bumper Cross Bronx Expressway style mess across Manhattan.

Instead of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, he wanted and almost got a bridge (bridges are cool, tunnels are nothing), which would have destroyed lower Manhattan.

I can go on and on. The guy would have plowed under the entire city with highways if he had his way.
Ocean Parkway today probably would be better off if it actually was a real highway, especially given what DeBlasio has done to that street.

I don't understand why so much money gets put into the BQE and the highway is still s**t? Are they paying workers just to sit on their asses for 30 years?
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Old 12-06-2016, 04:21 AM
 
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Ocean Parkway today probably would be better off if it actually was a real highway, especially given what DeBlasio has done to that street.

I don't understand why so much money gets put into the BQE and the highway is still s**t? Are they paying workers just to sit on their asses for 30 years?
Your beloved mayor has even more changes in store for Ocean Parkway...
Hikind, Brooklyn Residents Protest DOT Over Ocean Parkway Changes | The Jewish Week
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Moses was a complete jacka*s. Look at the Prospect Expressway. It destroyed a section of the beautiful Ocean Parkway. And if he enough time and money, he would have continued it to Coney Island and destroyed the rest of Ocean Parkway.

Moses was also going to plow the BQE right through the heart of Brooklyn Heights, but the residents were able to shift it to the river.

His Lower Manhattan Expressway would have destroyed Soho, and created another bumper-to-bumper Cross Bronx Expressway style mess across Manhattan.

Instead of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, he wanted and almost got a bridge (bridges are cool, tunnels are nothing), which would have destroyed lower Manhattan.

I can go on and on. The guy would have plowed under the entire city with highways if he had his way.
I don't disagree that Moses was too extreme with some of his more invasive route ideas, he definitely had a one track mind when it came to planning. BUT, that being said, I feel the city really could have benefited from more highways. We're a major world city with nearly third world roadways and a major part of why our street traffic is so bad is because of a lack of other options. I think of other cities I've been to, and there you can effectively get from opposite ends of the city without being in stand still traffic on an expressway and without creating thru-traffic on any local streets. Considering that the furthest north and south points between Brooklyn and Queens are not more than 15 miles apart, I think its scary that it takes 1 hour and 15 mins to drive from one to another.
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