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Old 12-12-2016, 08:51 AM
 
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Only persons with any illusions about Rudy G. are those who are just like him and or play in the same ball field. This explains why the guy has a base of support in parts of SI and other "working/middle class" conservative areas of USA.


Everyone else sees Rudy G. for what he is; a racist, homophobic misogynist with a huge Napoleon complex.
Bugsy, I have to say, I agree with you on this one!
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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The notion from him "We were safe (toward the end of Dinkins' term), but didn't feel safe" says a lot about not only him, but a lot about us who may feel that way at one time or another.....!
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:48 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Giuliani had become a bit too extreme that even Trump could not give him the Secretary of State job.
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: SC
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Giuliani can never ruin his reputation. People thought he was a "Cheney" in the past, they will continue to think of him as a "Cheney" until he is dead and forgotten.

No harm done.
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Only persons with any illusions about Rudy G. are those who are just like him and or play in the same ball field. This explains why the guy has a base of support in parts of SI and other "working/middle class" conservative areas of USA.
Everyone who remembers that rally at City Hall, in 1992, with him, Guy Molinari and all them police, ranting and raving against Dinkins' community policing initiatives knew the type of dude they got! That rally was racially ugly, with signs of Dinkins as a 'washroom attendant', among other things!
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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Giuliani had no legacy to wreck.
I'm no fan of Giuliani, but I think his demeanor went a long way toward getting the city through 9/11.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, not Paris. #MAGA.
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Giuliani was never "loved" by most New Yorkers (and before 9/11, his approval ratings were nothing to brag about either). But we loved what he did for NYC. Even though many today who were too young to remember what NYC was like before Giuliani don't appreciate his work, most NYers haven't forgotten him. When you think about it, Giuliani's brashness, similar to Trump, is what helped to reach many New Yorkers.

Some key examples:

"Insulting" Bus Drivers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1HaIeRLC-o

"Insulting" ferret advocate who was trying to change law on ferrets:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxLP6ni8vVo

Certainly count me among those who remain thankful to Mr. Giuliani.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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Giuliani saved NYC and ended the 25-year crime wave. I think he will go down in history as one of the great mayors of NYC. If only he had won in 1989 rather than 1993.
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Old 12-13-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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He is a great man and I've always respected him. He's just getting old and BAT **** CRAZY!

It happens...
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Old 12-14-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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The crime wave was starting to go down, due to a lot of factors.

Some folk just wanted certain people to get their ***** kicked so they could feel safe.....!
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