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Old 12-18-2016, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Dangerous? NYC has low crime in relative to population. I feel safer in NYC streets than in downtown New Orleans or Houston. They have cars because they need it, and housing is cheaper. Many NYC residents fled south just because its cheaper, if they could have afford to live in NYC they would have. I know so many people that fled to Atlanta or NC only to come back a year later due to lack of job opportunities.

NYC has the largest carribean neighborhoods. I haven't been to anywhere else in the states that come close to Flatbush avenue in terms of carribean influence. They may be leaving but not drastically.

My point was more black People are living in extreme poverty in southern states that have republican stronghold. Watching first 48 is depressing seeing the lack of education and diversity in southern states and Midwest. And the crimes committed over a few hundred dollars.

And that's the beauty of NYC. People don't do better until they know better, urban environments open people's mind and opportunities. We have issues but still are better off than red states which are notoriously poor.
At the end of the day. Do you live in a bubble?
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Old 12-18-2016, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Dangerous? NYC has low crime in relative to population. I feel safer in NYC streets than in downtown New Orleans or Houston. They have cars because they need it, and housing is cheaper. Many NYC residents fled south just because its cheaper, if they could have afford to live in NYC they would have. I know so many people that fled to Atlanta or NC only to come back a year later due to lack of job opportunities.

NYC has the largest carribean neighborhoods. I haven't been to anywhere else in the states that come close to Flatbush avenue in terms of carribean influence. They may be leaving but not drastically.

My point was more black People are living in extreme poverty in southern states that have republican stronghold. Watching first 48 is depressing seeing the lack of education and diversity in southern states and Midwest. And the crimes committed over a few hundred dollars.

And that's the beauty of NYC. People don't do better until they know better, urban environments open people's mind and opportunities. We have issues but still are better off than red states which are notoriously poor.
Texas and Arizona are red states and they're doing very well compared to the rest of the country.

Actually, if you exclude NYC, NY is doing horrible in general. Upstate is just depressing. There's a reason why Florida beat us in population a few years ago.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:40 AM
 
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Dangerous? NYC has low crime in relative to population. I feel safer in NYC streets than in downtown New Orleans or Houston. They have cars because they need it, and housing is cheaper. Many NYC residents fled south just because its cheaper, if they could have afford to live in NYC they would have. I know so many people that fled to Atlanta or NC only to come back a year later due to lack of job opportunities.

NYC has the largest carribean neighborhoods. I haven't been to anywhere else in the states that come close to Flatbush avenue in terms of carribean influence. They may be leaving but not drastically.

My point was more black People are living in extreme poverty in southern states that have republican stronghold. Watching first 48 is depressing seeing the lack of education and diversity in southern states and Midwest. And the crimes committed over a few hundred dollars.

And that's the beauty of NYC. People don't do better until they know better, urban environments open people's mind and opportunities. We have issues but still are better off than red states which are notoriously poor.
The poor Black neighborhoods in NYC do not have low crime relative to population, and overall conditions there are pretty grim. In Southern states you'll find more Black people from all walks of life, and as I noted you'll find a much higher percentage of homeowners (people living in actual houses, not shacks).

Outside NY the Caribbean population is more scattered, and yes they are drastically leaving. All that gentrification is at the expensive of Caribbean and other immigrants in the outer boroughs and parts of Manhattan.

You are in denial.

As for crimes committed, people in the hood in NYC would commit crimes for $5.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:42 AM
 
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Texas and Arizona are red states and they're doing very well compared to the rest of the country.

Actually, if you exclude NYC, NY is doing horrible in general. Upstate is just depressing. There's a reason why Florida beat us in population a few years ago.
In the early 20th century NY was the most populous state. California surpassed NY. Then Texas. And now Florida.

Georgia and NC are doing well, and Florida is not doing bad.

But back to NYC, it's gotten to the point where unless you are filthy rich you will have no quality of life.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Texas and Arizona are red states and they're doing very well compared to the rest of the country.

Actually, if you exclude NYC, NY is doing horrible in general. Upstate is just depressing. There's a reason why Florida beat us in population a few years ago.
I totally agree with you. I visited both States. I visited upstate NY, Albany area a couple of weeks ago. Albany is not the place where you want to be. Florida was devastated during the housing crisis though. I'm not sure if the state fully bounced back, however Florida now out paces nys in population size.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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The poor Black neighborhoods in NYC do not have low crime relative to population, and overall conditions there are pretty grim. In Southern states you'll find more Black people from all walks of life, and as I noted you'll find a much higher percentage of homeowners (people living in actual houses, not shacks).

Outside NY the Caribbean population is more scattered, and yes they are drastically leaving. All that gentrification is at the expensive of Caribbean and other immigrants in the outer boroughs and parts of Manhattan.

You are in denial.

As for crimes committed, people in the hood in NYC would commit crimes for $5.
Cheyenne lives in a bubble. I feel sorry for that poster.
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Old 12-18-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Cheyenne lives in a bubble. I feel sorry for that poster.
As cultural elitists tend to do... which is why we just rolled over them on November 8th!
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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Though I support Trump on immigration reform, I thought he spoke way too broadly on Latinos or Muslims. It was too racist.
LOL "too racist".
Like, "it would have been okay if he was just a little bit racist, but too racist was too much."
Lovely.
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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Cheyenne lives in a bubble. I feel sorry for that poster.
I love the bubble!
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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I totally agree with you. I visited both States. I visited upstate NY, Albany area a couple of weeks ago. Albany is not the place where you want to be. Florida was devastated during the housing crisis though. I'm not sure if the state fully bounced back, however Florida now out paces nys in population size.
I went to Austin last month and fell in love with it. If I could move there I would n a heartbeat.
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