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Old 12-22-2016, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NYC / BK / Crown Heights
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California today is a much different state then it was in the 1980s. Reagan wouldn't win California today. I predict that state will always vote blue for a very long time by a large margin.
Politics are much different now than they were in 80s. Reagan wouldn't be able to run as Republican today with his platform. He might still be able to win California with it, though.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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Of course I don't think Obama is an anti-Semite? Why would I?
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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Popular vote is such a bad metric that no country uses. Any country even Canada doesn't allow for direct vote of the highest position of power for the same reasons that Electoral college was created.

Even without a popular vote, Great Britain has had more women Prime Ministers in just 30 years than America in 200 yrs+
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Old 12-23-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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Ok, so Hillary won the popular vote by about 3 million votes right? Hillary got about 80% of the vote in heavily populated and very very very blue states NY and California. Remove those 2 leftist states and guess what? Trump wins the popular vote by 3 million! So basically 2 of the bluest states in the country, NY and CA put Hillary over the top in the popular vote, not the other states. Just putting things into perceptive and so when a slimy liberal argues Hillary won the popular vote, just throw in their faces those facts.
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:34 PM
 
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Ok, so Hillary won the popular vote by about 3 million votes right? Hillary got about 80% of the vote in heavily populated and very very very blue states NY and California. Remove those 2 leftist states and guess what? Trump wins the popular vote by 3 million! So basically 2 of the bluest states in the country, NY and CA put Hillary over the top in the popular vote, not the other states. Just putting things into perceptive and so when a slimy liberal argues Hillary won the popular vote, just throw in their faces those facts.
Honestly Trump won fairly and squarely. Even if people think the electoral college is unfair, it is how Presidents are determined in 2016. If people want to change that fine, but meanwhile they need to accept the election is over and Trump is the President. Hillary wasn't all that, and the Democrats screwed up big time.
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Old 12-23-2016, 10:40 PM
 
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Ok, so Hillary won the popular vote by about 3 million votes right? Hillary got about 80% of the vote in heavily populated and very very very blue states NY and California. Remove those 2 leftist states and guess what? Trump wins the popular vote by 3 million! So basically 2 of the bluest states in the country, NY and CA put Hillary over the top in the popular vote, not the other states. Just putting things into perceptive and so when a slimy liberal argues Hillary won the popular vote, just throw in their faces those facts.
So what you're saying is, Trump would have won the PV if we just ignore 20% of the population of the country, so we may as well treat him as though he won? And you're calling other people slimy...
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Old 12-24-2016, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Honestly Trump won fairly and squarely. Even if people think the electoral college is unfair, it is how Presidents are determined in 2016. If people want to change that fine, but meanwhile they need to accept the election is over and Trump is the President. Hillary wasn't all that, and the Democrats screwed up big time.
Hillary was just a terrible campaigner, she didn't even bother to campaign in Wisconsin, and barely campaigned in Ohio, but campained in California multiple times, a state that would of went to her by a huge margin regardless, and deep red states that she lost like Arizona.

If popular vote truly matter in elections then Hillary would of been President.....back in 2008. She received move votes in the primaries back then, but Obama secured more delegates and became the Democratic nominee. She basically lost twice in a row despite winning more votes.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:25 AM
 
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Hillary was just a terrible campaigner, she didn't even bother to campaign in Wisconsin, and barely campaigned in Ohio, but campained in California multiple times, a state that would of went to her by a huge margin regardless, and deep red states that she lost like Arizona.

If popular vote truly matter in elections then Hillary would of been President.....back in 2008. She received move votes in the primaries back then, but Obama secured more delegates and became the Democratic nominee. She basically lost twice in a row despite winning more votes.
And did not campaign or campaigned very little in PA, which she also lost. She should have campaigned hard in the rust belt, and probably Florida as well.

Aside from Hillary sucking, the Republicans had wrapped up who the nominee was in the spring. Hillary vs Bernie went on for too long for the party to unify. The Republicans who were clearly going to lose backed out and did not try to drag it out to the convention. Even Cruz, for all of his other faults (I don't like him) was a much more graceful loser than Democratic candidates.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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So what you're saying is, Trump would have won the PV if we just ignore 20% of the population of the country, so we may as well treat him as though he won? And you're calling other people slimy...
If Trump knew the election was being determined by the popular vote, he would have campaigned differently.

Trump would have held sold out rallies every night in Madison Square Garden in New York for a month.

Then he would be at the Rose Bowl in Southern California every night for the next month.

In response, all of Hillary's "tolerant" supporters would respond to Trump's rallies by spitting on cops, assaulting women, burning the American flag, and destroying public property. The local news in California, and NY would cover it 24/7 and Trump would win the popular vote by 10 million.

The bottom line is Trump is the very definition of a winner. Hillary is a complete and total loser. Just look at Hillary's record as Secretary of State.

Hillary cheated and still could not come close to winning the election. Trump won all the important swing states,and the whole blue wall. They did a recount in Michigan, and found total voter fraud by the Democrats in Detroit. There were more votes for Hillary, than registered voters - and she still lost Michigan.

Hillary has been preparing to be president for 20 years - and couldn't beat a guy that just decided to pick up politics as a hobby. And by the way, no Democrat would have beaten Trump. You know why? He doesn't lose. Trump gets whatever he wants.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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If Trump knew the election was being determined by the popular vote, he would have campaigned differently.

Trump would have held sold out rallies every night in Madison Square Garden in New York for a month.

Then he would be at the Rose Bowl in Southern California every night for the next month.

In response, all of Hillary's "tolerant" supporters would respond to Trump's rallies by spitting on cops, assaulting women, burning the American flag, and destroying public property. The local news in California, and NY would cover it 24/7 and Trump would win the popular vote by 10 million.

The bottom line is Trump is the very definition of a winner. Hillary is a complete and total loser. Just look at Hillary's record as Secretary of State.

Hillary cheated and still could not come close to winning the election. Trump won all the important swing states,and the whole blue wall. They did a recount in Michigan, and found total voter fraud by the Democrats in Detroit. There were more votes for Hillary, than registered voters - and she still lost Michigan.

Hillary has been preparing to be president for 20 years - and couldn't beat a guy that just decided to pick up politics as a hobby. And by the way, no Democrat would have beaten Trump. You know why? He doesn't lose. Trump gets whatever he wants.
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