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Old 12-24-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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Reduction of crime, increased sanitation services, new bus routes, more money for public schools, etc etc.

Gentrification doesn't mean the same thing as hipsters.
These are all things that the city could have improved regardless of gentrification. It's actually very telling about who the government serves that they only made improvements in these areas when the rich bankers move into neighborhoods. The government doesn't think poor and working families are worth good schools and sanitation.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:05 PM
 
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These are all things that the city could have improved regardless of gentrification. It's actually very telling about who the government serves that they only made improvements in these areas when the rich bankers move into neighborhoods. The government doesn't think poor and working families are worth good schools and sanitation.
lmao.

Those things ARE gentrification. They happen because without the money from non-poor people moving in, there isn't enough funding or them.

And wealthy bankers? Get real, it's upper middle class college kids and yuppies who can't afford to live where wealthy bankers live who are moving into these places 99% of the time. Wealthy bankers aren't the ones moving to williamsburg or harlem or greenpoint
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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I could just as easily say that East Harlem lost its Italian character in the 60s when tons of PRs and Dominicans moved in, but then I'd get called a racist or something. Character means nothing, it's just a buzzford for saying "too many white people who live differently moved here!"

I mean, rent raises and people being priced out are very real issues, but character is just... subjective nothingness.
there's a such thing called neighborhood character. which has nothing to do with race. certain places when gentrified, instead of getting your haircut by your barber, or hairdresser, which you have a personal relationship with, now will have to go to a chain like supercuts or somethin
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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cell phone companies, and banks, except for wells fargo. those which no one mentioned, have been in the hood pre gentrification. they go wherever there's a need. the cellphone companies capitalized on the popularity of cellphone service. that fact has nothing to do with gentrification. the banks and all other recent businesses which have opened, or relocated to harlem NOW there's a market due to harlem gentrifying. they see higher income individuals residing in harlem, which is why they've set up shop. harlem was POOR, prior to its gentrifying. harlem was NEVER going to see a whole foods had the neighborhood remained the same. although everyone uses big chains, lets not act stupid, and act like certain neighborhoods had they not gentrified were going to see these things in their hood. they were not.
Bank branches have been in Harlem since businesses got tax credits from the federal and state governments for investing in busted up urban areas, and this is likely a factor in why Whole Foods is now in Central Harlem. Harlem still is not gentrified. I live there now. In my area there have been recent shootings due to drug turf wars, aside from quality of life issues like loud music and typical things that happen in the hood. And I live in one of the nice parts of Harlem.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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lmao.

Those things ARE gentrification. They happen because without the money from non-poor people moving in, there isn't enough funding or them.

And wealthy bankers? Get real, it's upper middle class college kids and yuppies who can't afford to live where wealthy bankers live who are moving into these places 99% of the time. Wealthy bankers aren't the ones moving to williamsburg or harlem or greenpoint
There are a lot of new luxury buildings in Williamsburg, and Williamsburg is actually more expensive than the UWS or UES. In short wealthy bankers would and do move to Williamsburg, particularly to BUY condos.

Harlem on the other hand isn't getting wealthy bankers. It does get college kids and recent graduates.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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there's a such thing called neighborhood character. which has nothing to do with race. certain places when gentrified, instead of getting your haircut by your barber, or hairdresser, which you have a personal relationship with, now will have to go to a chain like supercuts or somethin
A lot of the hood lacks character in a sense...too many auto body shops, fast food (most of which is chains), 99 cent stores, etc., rather than bars, restaurants, clothing stores, etc.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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The positive aspects of gentrification???? For who yuppies and transplants? Scumbag developers and banker wanksters?

What the **** are you talking about? Why don't you go to Bed-Stuy Brooklyn or the LES and talk to life-long residents who are getting evicted and harassed by police so you can have a ****ing artisan pickle shop and a condo and call yourself "edgy"
The LES has been gentrified for a while. But that neighborhood is characterized by cool restaurants and bars rather than "Artisan pickle shops". And you're maybe 20 years late with the LES being "edgy".

And honestly people are being unrealistic if they think they should be able to live in the LES for $400 a month still. For the ones who can via subsidized housing, good for them but that can't be the reality for everyone.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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Nyc sucks anymore and the dating scene especially sucks. Too many liberals and wanna be men in this city anymore. I hate it. Gentrification sucks.
NYC has always been left leaning. And if you can't get laid in NYC, you likely can't get laid in other places either.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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NYC has always been left leaning. And if you can't get laid in NYC, you likely can't get laid in other places either.

Lol. Haha. This is seriously not true. Just two weeks ago I was in Vegas and met a woman from San Diego. Very easy.

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Nyc sucks anymore and the dating scene especially sucks. Too many liberals and wanna be men in this city anymore. I hate it. Gentrification sucks.

Lol. Yeah I agree gentrification does hurt dating. My girlfriend is a vegan.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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lmao.

Those things ARE gentrification. They happen because without the money from non-poor people moving in, there isn't enough funding or them.
This is bull. NYS and NYC can tax the wealthy where they live and then Invest it in poor and working class neighborhoods. That's the price they pay for leeching off of us and all of hard work we do while they sit back producing nothing for society but stock and real estate speculation.

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And wealthy bankers? Get real, it's upper middle class college kids and yuppies who can't afford to live where wealthy bankers live who are moving into these places 99% of the time. Wealthy bankers aren't the ones moving to williamsburg or harlem or greenpoint
Yes this is second stage gentrification. first the college kids then the bankers that's what happened in Williamsburg.
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