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I was recently in Nicaragua and we ate with families that had 10+ people (not all related) living in what we would consider a shack, with sporadic electricity and hardly running water. They literally washed their clothes and bathed in the lake.
They were the warmest, friendliest people I have ever met.
These are destitute families. Most families in Latin America aren't that poor. People live in houses and apartments. And they have running water and reasonable regular electricity. Things varying from country to country and within regions of the country, but as a whole most people are not that poor.
Nothing wrong with roommates in your 20's, 30's, 40's and even BEYOND. Nothing at ALL. But when you are erecting walls to subdivide living rooms and bedrooms and living that way, yes there is. Obviously immigrants have been doing this forever, but now it's being done in luxury doormen buildings in Manhattan? :/ Most of the people in these articles doing it thought are so infantalized and they have SO MUCH financial support from home that it's just extended dorm living for them. If the ****ttt hits the fan they can always move back home to mommy and daddy (something immigrants can't do for the most part). I find it gross enough when high income married people with a kid or two hoard all the studios and one bedroom apartments that middle income single people used to be able to afford in NYC. Now, unless you want to wanna swap genitals (believe it or not, NOT all of like that) with someone, to live in a one bedroom you are screwed because prices have gone up accordingly to accommodate these infiltrators of everything bland in the world. The WONDERFUL multi-unit apartment building I live in, that used to be filled with single people of all types, that is mostly one bedrooms and studios and some two bedrooms has turned into a disgusting pit of nothing but obnoxious breeders and their free-loading Pre-K (OBVIOUSLY HARVARD-BOUND) crotchfruit. :/ It sucks.
There's really nothing that's going to be done about all that. Yes big parts of the city are extended dorm living or in fact literal dorms. Those landlords make their money off this market, and that's that.
If you have $1,000 a month to spend on rent there are obviously better options. Everyone knows that. These people are just hell bent on living in the prime sections of Manhattan. Were they not even to leave Manhattan, just go Uptown they'd find more space. Or go to Jersey, get an entire place of their own and commute. I can't imagine living that way past the age of maybe 22.
If you have $1,000 a month to spend on rent there are obviously better options. Everyone knows that. These people are just hell bent on living in the prime sections of Manhattan. Were they not even to leave Manhattan, just go Uptown they'd find more space. Or go to Jersey, get an entire place of their own and commute. I can't imagine living that way past the age of maybe 22.
Agreed. I'd much rather live with one roommate in Washington Heights than 3 roommates in Lower Manhattan. I'd live even further out and not have a roommate but that's (for the most part) not possible on that budget in NYC proper anynore
In any case, none of the cons in this thread matter. Either you can afford living alone or not. If not, then you got roommates or live on the street. Roommate life is as common as homosexual marriage...actually more common.
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Agreed. I'd much rather live with one roommate in Washington Heights than 3 roommates in Lower Manhattan. I'd live even further out and not have a roommate but that's (for the most part) not possible on that budget in NYC proper anynore
That is how things will be, you rate your local by how many roommates are needed to get by.
It is not only NYC. A few years ago I asked a guy living at Santa Monica beach how much it cost for an apt. He said 3 roommates share the $2600 apt and take weekly turns sleeping in the 1 bedroom. At least your NY'ers got some privacy walls!
These are destitute families. Most families in Latin America aren't that poor. People live in houses and apartments. And they have running water and reasonable regular electricity. Things varying from country to country and within regions of the country, but as a whole most people are not that poor.
It does depend on which country and region because their versions of Middle class families varies and they could still live like this. A lawyer could still live in a shack with outdoor plumbing/facilities, maybe a bit more modern from the rest of the neighborhood but still a shack compared to 1st world.
In any case, none of the cons in this thread matter. Either you can afford living alone or not. If not, then you got roommates or live on the street. Roommate life is as common as homosexual marriage...actually more common.
Jesus Christ that's worst than 3rd world disgusting. At least in India they defecate in the open and the smell isn't trapped and shared in a one bedroom apartment. If you can't afford it then move to rural NJ that way you can just freely create your own fertilizer and eat it too. Poo-pourri must be flying off the shelves in Manhattan.
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People adopt to the environment. Sorry about that. I have thousands of hours on small boats and RVs where we had five people living very comfortably in 500 SF. It is not difficult.
Social norms may dictate more space but practically it is easy to live five or six people in 600SF.
And in fact one of my most favorite life experiences in small boating over long distances. Far worse than an apartment as there is no escape. You are there for the duration.
So if it bothers you fix the economics that causes it. Don't pick on the participants.
Exactly. People often have to adjust to their circumstances. It is best not to judge others, until you've lived their life.
I would guess for many folks, sharing would be better than homelessness. I pray for their health and prosperity.
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