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Old 12-15-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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Is this true, 20 years later? The last time I was on the Island was last month. A friend told me that black folks and white folks don't live together in the South Shore and North Shore, Staten Island. Is this true? Is places like Eltingville, New Dorp, Stapleton, segregated?
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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It has more to do with poverty than race.
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Old 12-15-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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It has more to do with poverty than race.
I don't think that's true. I think an upper-middle class black family would rather live on the North Shore than the South Shore or Mid-Island, but that's just my opinion.
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Old 12-15-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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In terms of black and white, every area in this country is racially segregated. And for the neighborhoods in this city that are seeing some white folks move in to long time black strongholds, the majority of these (on the surface) liberal white people are consciously waiting patiently for the black folk who still live there to move on. I can promise you that.
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:53 PM
 
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Is this true, 20 years later? The last time I was on the Island was last month. A friend told me that black folks and white folks don't live together in the South Shore and North Shore, Staten Island. Is this true? Is places like Eltingville, New Dorp, Stapleton, segregated?

Why don't you stop listening to a "friend" and drive out and see for yourself?


Staten Island is overwhelmingly white. As of last census count only about 50k of the residents are blacks/African-Americans. Largest minority group actually is Latino/Hispanic, and that number is growing while the AA number declines.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr..._Staten_Island


All over the USA most people tend to live where people are like themselves, and Staten Island is no different.


Back in the 1970's a home that was due to be purchased out on the South Shore was firebombed. Doubt if that would happen today.


In my day you had nil, zip, nada, none, non white kids at the South Shore/Mid Island public and private schools including high (Tottenville, New Dorp, Monseigneur Farrell, Saint Joseph's Hilletc...) that has changed.


legacy lecture - Monsignor Farrell High School


Staten Island students rally to support 2015 Bread of Life Drive | SILive.com


https://stjosephhill.org/high-school/photo-corner/


New Dorp High School=


An all-Tottenville affair for Staten Island Hockey League title - SILive.com


Is everybody happy with these changes? No, but unlike twenty years ago they are wise to keep their comments (and hands) to themselves if they want to stay out of jail. That or they just post comments on SI Live.


On both North and South Shores many of those "uncomfortable" with changes and or felt their area was getting a bit too dark long since packed up and moved.


Problem on the South Shore and other parts of SI is that you have a huge housing boom (all those townhouses) that brought people from South Brooklyn and other parts of the City to Staten Island. Many of them are white of all backgrounds and have some very funny ideas about race relations.
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Old 12-15-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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It may come as a surprise to some, but plenty of those on the South Shore and elsewhere on the Rock with "race problems" are NYC civil servants. I'm not naming any names... but FDNY, NYPD, and yes even DSNY comes to mind. Add to this the various other working to middle class "whites" including everyone from those employed in the trades to dock workers and so forth.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:16 PM
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It may come as a surprise to some, but plenty of those on the South Shore and elsewhere on the Rock with "race problems" are NYC civil servants. I'm not naming any names... but FDNY, NYPD, and yes even DSNY comes to mind. Add to this the various other working to middle class "whites" including everyone from those employed in the trades to dock workers and so forth.
I hate to say it, and it's anecdotal knowledge only, but I think you are right. I was a little shocked a few times at things said by people I worked with who lived on SI. I didn't usually hear racist crap from people from other boroughs, including white people when it was just other white people around, but I did from SI people. Not all, of course--I have a good friend on SI, an Italian girl who went on several vacations with another coworker who is black. But more from SI seem to be prejudiced and have no qualms about stating their opinions.
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Old 12-15-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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I hate to say it, and it's anecdotal knowledge only, but I think you are right. I was a little shocked a few times at things said by people I worked with who lived on SI. I didn't usually hear racist crap from people from other boroughs, including white people when it was just other white people around, but I did from SI people. Not all, of course--I have a good friend on SI, an Italian girl who went on several vacations with another coworker who is black. But more from SI seem to be prejudiced and have no qualms about stating their opinions.

No surprises on this end, but then again I grew up on the Rock.


It is only rather recently SI Live began some sort of (limited) moderation of comments posted on their website. Read some of the past comments to various articles ranging on everything from gay marriage to Eric Garner and you'll just go .
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:35 PM
 
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the pizza is actually decent
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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Is this true, 20 years later? The last time I was on the Island was last month. A friend told me that black folks and white folks don't live together in the South Shore and North Shore, Staten Island. Is this true? Is places like Eltingville, New Dorp, Stapleton, segregated?
Ewww, who cares if it is? Build a wall around it, and tell 'em it's for their protection.
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