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Old 02-25-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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Howard Beach yes but Ozone Park?
Yes Ozone Park too, but Howard Beach is not the Archie Bunker type. Plus the abandoned tracks start north of Howard Beach anyway, so it doesnt apply to them as they already have a train that stops in their neighborhood.
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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I think the NIMBYism is strong on that side of town. Everything along that ROW is some of the last vestiges of Archie Bunker territory.
Actually, it is not the working class folk in Woodhaven and Ozone Park that is holding it up. It's the more affluent progressive folk in Forest Hills and Rego Park that are.
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Old 02-25-2018, 03:26 PM
 
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Yes Ozone Park too, but Howard Beach is not the Archie Bunker type. Plus the abandoned tracks start north of Howard Beach anyway, so it doesnt apply to them as they already have a train that stops in their neighborhood.
Aren't Woodhaven and Ozone Park mostly Latino and/or South Asian these days?
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Old 02-25-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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Aren't Woodhaven and Ozone Park mostly Latino and/or South Asian these days?
You don't have to be white to be an Archie Bunker. Either way, it isn't the non-Archie Bunker types that are against the rail. It is the Stephen Colbert types that are against it and want it to be a park for their selfish personal use. All while the Archie Bunker's can't get to work on time, but what do the limousine liberal Colbert's care.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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Taking E train from Kew Gardens already felt like being in an African country. And thats without the homeless **** smell.

Always wondered where are those people working in Manhattan.

Thank God, I moved to LI and no longer to deal with the people on E train.

LIRR is like a LIMO ride to midtown now. A seat every time, able to read a book.

At last.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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Actually, it is not the working class folk in Woodhaven and Ozone Park that is holding it up. It's the more affluent progressive folk in Forest Hills and Rego Park that are.
What's their beef?
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:32 PM
 
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What's their beef?
They want the Queensway cutting through their backyards that leads them into Forest Park instead of a subway line. They already got theirs anyway, subway-wise that is, so they say F the poorer working class man. Typical Elizabeth Warren types.
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Old 02-25-2018, 05:42 PM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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Aren't Woodhaven and Ozone Park mostly Latino and/or South Asian these days?
Yup, very Hispanic and South Asian, also large Guayanese population
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Old 02-25-2018, 06:29 PM
 
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Yup, very Hispanic and South Asian, also large Guayanese population
Yeah neither of these neighborhoods have an Archie Bunker vibe in my opinion, maybe 30 years ago they did.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:21 PM
 
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What's their beef?
I think people who immediately have their property abut the right of way worry about noise or having their stuff cleared, but there isn’t much beef from people who don’t immediately abut it. These same people probably wouldn’t be thrilled about a park either. As far as I know, there was only one survey conducted for opinions about the proposed uses of this branch and that was done in 2014 by the Queens College Urban Studies department.

In that survey, of four different options (build rail, build Queensway, try to build a rail and trail option, and do nothing / leave as is), the plurality of people thought building rail was the best option. It’s also interesting that the survey had a breakdown for the rail option to be “a higher percentage of the respondents from Forest Hills-Rego Park-Glendale (39 percent) favored reactivation of the right of way for public transportation than did respondents from the Rockaways (31.3 percent), Richmond Hill-Woodhaven (31.5 percent) or Ozone Park-South Ozone Park-Lindenwood-Howard Beach (34.9 percent).”

I think both the rail and the park are good uses of it, but rail is a much, much better usage. Build the rail and if funding ever opens up to greenroof parts of it, great.

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