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I know transit is got there hands full with the 2 ave subway but I was doing some random
Reading on wikipedia and Was wondering how feasible would it be to do it and BAM! It hit me.
According to wiki the upper level E tunnel extends some 2000 feet south toward the Atlantic branch of the LIRR
and is actually below the branch! I know the LIRR sends alot of trains to babylon,long beach,and Far rock along this branch but I reccomned MTA buying that entire corridor from LIRR and convering it to subway use such as
Was done with the Dyre ave branch of the 5 line. (Even tho that ROW was abandoned) but those displaced trains can use the st albans corridor of the same capacity just further east.
I think the line should be 3 tracks to allow for peak direction service and to obviously speed up the ride in considering the distance. Now since trains already have been running thru there for decades there shouldnt be any b****** about the noise or frequency of trains becuase they should be used it as far as the folks along the
Immeadiate route.
7 New stations as follows:
108/109 Aves
Linden Blvd
Foch Blvd
Baisley Blvd-N Rochdale
Farmers blvd-S Rochdale (current site of lirr locust manor stop)
Laurelton-225 St (luarelton lirr stop)
Rosedale-Francis Lewis blvd (rosedale lirr stop)
Considering that this was the plan in the 70s following the construction of rochdale village that holds some
25,000 people it really needs to be looked at again. The lirr does its justice...for those who can afford it.
But how about the majority who cant and this the low frequencies of the lirr trains that do stop at those 3 stations. Its a transit desert out there and its comtains over 100-200k people who currently rely on the longg bus rides to jamaica and those nasty A** dollar vans. It also takes the pressure of those buses converging at Jamaica.
As to building an Entirely new subway or EL along Merrick blvd and cuasing all that disruption I think the MTA could pull this off for relatively "cheap". The most expense would be the portal from
Subway to elevated around the york city college vicinity. Good thoughts welcomed
In a perfect world the 7 could be extended to northeastern Queens
Instead of the LIRR ROW, what the MTA can do is one of the following:
1. Extend the (E) to Locust Manor as a Subway mostly via Guy R. Brewer Blvd.
2. Extend the (Z) to Rosedale above the LIRR Right of Way separating from the (J) at Sutphin/Archer as the (J) is extended East to Queens Village and Glen Oaks.
3. Start a new MTA Light Rail service along the LIRR Right of Way tracks every 15 minutes with some LIRR trains used and honoring Light Rail tickets.
I'd rather see the (F) be the one to go to Queens Village. The (Z) is literally just extra (J) service (those (Z) trains either head back to Broadway Junction or Jamaica/Broad Street as (J) trains when they're done with their trip)
Also, the Hillside Avenue branch has express tracks and the 179th Street terminal has high capacity, so the (F) was designed to be extended further out.
I'd rather see the (F) be the one to go to Queens Village. The (Z) is literally just extra (J) service (those (Z) trains either head back to Broadway Junction or Jamaica/Broad Street as (J) trains when they're done with their trip)
Also, the Hillside Avenue branch has express tracks and the 179th Street terminal has high capacity, so the (F) was designed to be extended further out.
The (F) to Queens Village and Floral Park is agreed upon. It is just the Central-Eastern Queens residents need the connection to the (J) for Brooklyn service.
I'm not for the (E) train to extend any further than Locust Manor, even though the tunnel is built that way. It's ridership base is between Jamaica Center and World Trade Center with most customers riding either between Jamaica Center and Midtown (either Penn Station or 42nd Street - Port Authority), or Kew Gardens and Lower Manhattan (World Trade Center), as folks in Jamaica looking for Lower Manhattan have a tendency to use the (J)/(Z) trains, and transfer to the (A) at Broadway Junction.
The (F) to Queens Village and Floral Park is agreed upon. It is just the Central-Eastern Queens residents need the connection to the (J) for Brooklyn service.
I'm not for the (E) train to extend any further than Locust Manor, even though the tunnel is built that way. It's ridership base is between Jamaica Center and World Trade Center with most customers riding either between Jamaica Center and Midtown (either Penn Station or 42nd Street - Port Authority), or Kew Gardens and Lower Manhattan (World Trade Center), as folks in Jamaica looking for Lower Manhattan have a tendency to use the (J)/(Z) trains, and transfer to the (A) at Broadway Junction.
The remaining white flight residents, and newcomers with good jobs,that were settling in, did not want low income or strangers of other parts of NYC just showing up. Let's keep it to ourselves is the philosophy.
The bus sucks! Yes, there should be a train service down hillside avenue to little neck parkway, and another down Jamaica avenue. Make a split going north and south along Francis Lewis Blvd ,going as far south as it can.
The remaining white flight residents, and newcomers with good jobs,that were settling in, did not want low income or strangers of other parts of NYC just showing up. Let's keep it to ourselves is the philosophy.
The bus sucks! Yes, there should be a train service down hillside avenue to little neck parkway, and another down Jamaica avenue. Make a split going north and south along Francis Lewis Blvd ,going as far south as it can.
I wish we did have a train running over a highway like they do in Chicago. Wish Van Wyck was the one since it’s a pretty direct expressway!
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