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Old 12-17-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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The only red states that tend to be gay friendly are in Texas such as Austin, Florida like Miami and Tampa and Atlanta Georgia. NYC DC, SF and Boston are legacy cities. These cities tend to be overly expensive. Gay, like straight people are reevaluating their spending if it is worth staying in legacy cities like DC, NYC and SF. The only benefit gay people have over straight people is family spending. Gay people tend not to create families vs straight people who have familes and cant afford to maintain families due to health insurance costs, child care, rent and etc.
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Old 12-17-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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^ more ignorance (not that half the stuff that he posts isn't) but still...
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Old 12-17-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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Many gays because of discrimination in the workforce only have access to low paying service sector jobs.

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Old 12-17-2016, 05:33 PM
 
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Why LGBT People Are Moving to Red States - The Daily Beast

More gay people are making lives for themselves in red states, simply because it is more affordable. This is likely a factor in the dying gay scene in NYC, SF, and LA.

Here is an article on 26 dead or dying gay bars in NYC, SF, and LA.

26 Dead (Or Dying) Gay Bars in NYC, L.A., S.F. | Advocate.com

So they are just like many other people but gay.

My husband and I have checked out other cities for the sake of affordability---we're city people, we couldn't just up and move to the country or suburbs. Even red states have cities that are pretty liberal and often times an active gay scene, like Louisville, KY.
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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The only red states that tend to be gay friendly are in Texas such as Austin, Florida like Miami and Tampa and Atlanta Georgia. NYC DC, SF and Boston are legacy cities. These cities tend to be overly expensive. Gay, like straight people are reevaluating their spending if it is worth staying in legacy cities like DC, NYC and SF. The only benefit gay people have over straight people is family spending. Gay people tend not to create families vs straight people who have familes and cant afford to maintain families due to health insurance costs, child care, rent and etc.
In old age though, children often take care of their parents (sometimes aunts and uncles), put them in nursing homes, etc. I know gay single people with no families, and in old age with no one to help them out if they get sick it isn't good. It's worth having children. A lot of gay people do have kids (from prior heterosexual relations or artificial insemination/surrogacy or adoption).
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:40 PM
 
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Many gays because of discrimination in the workforce only have access to low paying service sector jobs.

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"Nov. 15 --The nation's estimated 1.8 million lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender workers of color are particularly disadvantaged, with higher levels of unemployment and on-the-job discrimination as well as lower wages than other employees, the Movement Advancement Project and other think tanks reported Nov. 14."
https://www.bna.com/lgbt-minorities-...s-study-finds/

That is from Bloomberg BNA.

"Gay characters are all over prime time these days. But if they compose the only image you have of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender America, then your picture is a smidge incomplete. Those lawyers and fashion assistants and sexy bi doctors usually have expensive educations, career success and job security. In reality, though, employers in most of this country can legally fire someone, deny them a promotion, or refuse to hire them for being gay. Gays and lesbians live in poverty at much higher rates than their straight peers, while LGBT couples make less money, have to pay more of their paychecks to the government, and get less back in return, studies say."

For Gay Americans, Lower Wages And Less Job Security, Studies Find - AOL Finance
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Old 12-17-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Yes it is a bad stigma. A few gays, or a few hundred gays moving into a neighborhood does not magically transform it. Many gays because of discrimination in the workforce only have access to low paying service sector jobs. There is NOT ENOUGH MONEY in the gay community to truly gentrify a significant part of any city. The gentrification is done by straight investors, straight governments passing public policies that encourage inner city investment, straight banks giving out the loans and mortgages, etc.
The very short stay I had in San Francisco taught me a lot about that city. And let me be clear, transforming a community isn't just confined to gays. Various groups have settled in various places, and were able to transform their perspective communities. You are correct that those communities are not 'magically' transformed. However, those places are changed over a period of time, whether it be San Fran, Columbus, Atlanta, or New York neighborhoods such as Harlem, Bed Stuy and Park Slope.

There is a lesson learned in 1) seeing value in a community; 2) seeing opportunity in the midst of adversity; how groups could transform communities despite the discrimination they encounter.

To add, gentrification is NOT done by just the 'investors'. To a large extent, many of them come after the fact!
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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With all I wrote, let me try to stay more focused on the topic. Liberal policies are not the driving force causing any group to leave New York. This city has just become too expensive to live. New York is a different animal, given the now lack of land, low supply of housing and the increasing demand for it. New York is a classic case where the geographic makeup (Manhattan being an island!) is also factored into straight up supply and demand! New York rents and home sales are going up, regardless of policies!
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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With all I wrote, let me try to stay more focused on the topic. Liberal policies are not the driving force causing any group to leave New York. This city has just become too expensive to live. New York is a different animal, given the now lack of land, low supply of housing and the increasing demand for it. New York is a classic case where the geographic makeup (Manhattan being an island!) is also factored into straight up supply and demand! New York rents and home sales are going up, regardless of policies!
The demand was lower in NYC, until Giuliani and Bloomberg marketed the city as having been cleaned up, and they went out of the way to expand tourism, and expand marketing in the city as a whole. Policy decisions that made were factors in the extremely expensive high demand situation NYC finds itself in. The sectors of NYC's economy that got expanded were sectors like tourism and higher education that have people staying in NYC for limited periods, so much of the city (especially much of Manhattan) apartment buildings got reduced to high end dorms.
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Old 12-17-2016, 06:52 PM
 
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Ghouliani and Bloomturd turned a gay city straight. Straight up.
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