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"It's the first time in history that more than 8.5 million people have called the city home.The city's population has been on the upswing for some time. With the new numbers released Thursday, the city has grown by more than 375,000 people in just the last five years, an increase of 4.5% -- or more than the entire population of Pittsburgh."
As for NY State, the population has been steadily declining for decades so nothing new there.
Again the devil is in the details.
From the above linked article"
"Driving the growth citywide last year: more people moved in than moved out, and there were more births than deaths.
“What's happened, and what I think really turned it around, and what's driving the population is the large number of births,” said Andrew Beveridge, a demographer and a professor of sociology at Queens College."
You have to then look at who is having all those children and what it means going forward for NYC especially the economy.
Death rate for NYC has been recovering from the HIV/AIDs epidemic for about a decade or so now. Better healthcare overall on average has allowed all New Yorkers to live longer lives.
Upstate NY is hideously grim and depressing. Surprise it ever had the population it once did. Something about it is just makes you want to slit your wrist. You feel the difference for the better as soon as you cross the state line and go into Vermont,Massachusetts or Ct. Suddenly people are better dressed and have teeth. Not so much going into Pa which is almost (but not quite) as bad as NY.
The pretty scenery sort of covers up the grimness in Summer but you are right, in Winter it is unbearable.
"It's the first time in history that more than 8.5 million people have called the city home.The city's population has been on the upswing for some time. With the new numbers released Thursday, the city has grown by more than 375,000 people in just the last five years, an increase of 4.5% -- or more than the entire population of Pittsburgh."
As for NY State, the population has been steadily declining for decades so nothing new there.
NYC is NYS last saving grace of keeping its population up. Why NYC is gaining people. NYC has some of the highest rates of out of wedlock births outside of the bible belt. Also NYC has a low death rate which can be seen as good healthcare initiatives in the city. People are living longer here. In some parts of the country, white men are having high death rates. Last. NYC has plenty of migration of young people from suburbia or rural areas from all across America who are moving here. Yet it is still uncertain how long these folks will remain in NYC. For every 1 native New Yorker that moves, out and 1 Native New Yorker that dies, you have another Native New Yorker living longer, you have a native New Yorker being born in an hospital, and another person from Ohio moving into Brooklyn for a career job after graduation Ohio State. If populist republican regimes fix economic situations throughout America, plenty of educated folks will begin not to move to NYC, and NYC population will stagnate. NYS population has been declining for more than a decade. ITs nothing new, but it is cause for concern rather or not if you live in NYC or in the state.
NYC is NYS last saving grace of keeping its population up. Why NYC is gaining people. NYC has some of the highest rates of out of wedlock births outside of the bible belt. Also NYC has a low death rate which can be seen as good healthcare initiatives in the city. People are living longer here. In some parts of the country, white men are having high death rates. Last. NYC has plenty of migration of young people from suburbia or rural areas from all across America who are moving here. Yet it is still uncertain how long these folks will remain in NYC. For every 1 native New Yorker that moves, out and 1 Native New Yorker that dies, you have another Native New Yorker living longer, you have a native New Yorker being born in an hospital, and another person from Ohio moving into Brooklyn for a career job after graduation Ohio State. If populist republican regimes fix economic situations throughout America, plenty of educated folks will begin not to move to NYC, and NYC population will stagnate. NYS population has been declining for more than a decade. ITs nothing new, but it is cause for concern rather or not if you live in NYC or in the state.
Rust belt and NY State are never going to recover no matter what happens with the economy. Politicians of both parties should have started being honest about the situation 25 years ago and developed programs to help people switch gears. Nothing but lies about bringing manufacturing jobs back blah blah blah. The human manufacturing era is over over over. Rust belt not coming back....neither is coal country.
The longer the lies persist the longer people will suffer.
Can't wait to see how many man powered mfg jobs and coal mining jobs are added to the economy in the next 4 years and what the minimum wage is in 2020.
Upstate NY is hideously grim and depressing. Surprise it ever had the population it once did. Something about it is just makes you want to slit your wrist. You feel the difference for the better as soon as you cross the state line and go into Vermont,Massachusetts or Ct. Suddenly people are better dressed and have teeth. Not so much going into Pa which is almost (but not quite) as bad as NY.
The pretty scenery sort of covers up the grimness in Summer but you are right, in Winter it is unbearable.
If you are surprised at how and why upstate NY had the "population" it ever did; then suggest doing some research.
First came the canal system that allowed goods to be moved from and to upstate New York west. Soon the railroads came along and pushed aside the canal system for moving same.
Until the great PRR built its tunnels under the Hudson River all goods coming from the west, as well as those going that direction stopped at said river. There freight (and passengers) would be loaded onto ferries to reach New Jersey (there were ferries for both at one time to Brooklyn as well), from there onto points west.
However what became New York Central RR and a few others built ROWs further upstate where the Hudson is narrower thus easier to build bridges or whatever to cross. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selkirk_hurdle
If you were a manufacturer needed to reach the greater USA markets west, it made sense to locate your business upstate. At one time Buffalo had one of the busiest passenger and freight rail service in the Northeast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...falo,_New_York
In addition to rail the areas of upstate near or with close access to the Great Lakes benefitted from shipping as well.
Rust belt and NY State are never going to recover no matter what happens with the economy. Politicians of both parties should have started being honest about the situation 25 years ago and developed programs to help people switch gears. Nothing but lies about bringing manufacturing jobs back blah blah blah. The human manufacturing era is over over over. Rust belt not coming back....neither is coal country.
The longer the lies persist the longer people will suffer.
Can't wait to see how many man powered mfg jobs and coal mining jobs are added to the economy in the next 4 years and what the minimum wage is in 2020.
NYC has it's own employment issues. You think automation can't get rid of a lot of civil servant jobs? It already has. If I want a new copy of my driver's license or birth certificate I can do that online.
The internet has reduced the need for staff for education as well. One can take classes online. Even when you're in a program in person at an university, you pay all your university bills and apply for financial aid and even sign electronically. So universities got rid of staff and clerks.
After losing manufacturing, NYC lost good middle class back office and customer service jobs to other states and other countries. What's left of NYC's middle class is construction, civil service, and education. All of which are vulnerable to federal policies. Interest rate increase could hit construction, and Trump cutting the budget could devastate education and civil service.
NY voted Blue because Hillary would have meant continued federal funding to keep NYC's middle class alive. Only Trump won, so don't think that NYC isn't at serious risk of major financial problems. If de Blasio defies Trump and keeps NYC as a sanctuary city the city council has already said that is 10 billion in federal funding lost.
As for restoring the rust belt, there are easy ways to do it. Trump has said he will spend 1 trillion in infrastructure. The government as a huge buyer of good and services can require that they are made in the US. Example MTA has an order of 300 r179 cars for the subway. They are made by Bombardier in upstate NY, and the parts are made in PA. Cuomo made the MTA buy trains made in the US. A Chinese company won the contract to build trains for Chicago Mass transit and Boston mass transit. Illinois and Massachusetts made the Chinese train company build factories in those states where they will build the trains.
Apple computer has said if it makes it's products in the US, they would have to charge an extra $100 which Apple fans would spend anyway.
NYC is NYS last saving grace of keeping its population up. Why NYC is gaining people. NYC has some of the highest rates of out of wedlock births outside of the bible belt. Also NYC has a low death rate which can be seen as good healthcare initiatives in the city. People are living longer here. In some parts of the country, white men are having high death rates. Last. NYC has plenty of migration of young people from suburbia or rural areas from all across America who are moving here. Yet it is still uncertain how long these folks will remain in NYC. For every 1 native New Yorker that moves, out and 1 Native New Yorker that dies, you have another Native New Yorker living longer, you have a native New Yorker being born in an hospital, and another person from Ohio moving into Brooklyn for a career job after graduation Ohio State. If populist republican regimes fix economic situations throughout America, plenty of educated folks will begin not to move to NYC, and NYC population will stagnate. NYS population has been declining for more than a decade. ITs nothing new, but it is cause for concern rather or not if you live in NYC or in the state.
Detroit because it has been devastated, is already attracting hipsters, artists, and startups.
All this goes in cycles. When NYC was ghetto and apartments were cheap, those people moved to NYC. Now that Detroit is CHEAP and BUSTED, it is now attracting people and investors. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/fa...n-detroit.html
If Trump gives tax credits for businesses to go to the MidWest and South (to support his case) you'd better believe they would go.
The Clinton, Bush, and Obama gave companies tax credits to be in cities like Boston, NYC, LA, and SF. The insane high prices didn't happen because these cities are magically cool. This was government policy. Only the neglect of the middle of the country caused political backlash, and these states will now have their time in the sun.
NYC has it's own employment issues. You think automation can't get rid of a lot of civil servant jobs? It already has. If I want a new copy of my driver's license or birth certificate I can do that online.
The internet has reduced the need for staff for education as well. One can take classes online. Even when you're in a program in person at an university, you pay all your university bills and apply for financial aid and even sign electronically. So universities got rid of staff and clerks.
After losing manufacturing, NYC lost good middle class back office and customer service jobs to other states and other countries. What's left of NYC's middle class is construction, civil service, and education. All of which are vulnerable to federal policies. Interest rate increase could hit construction, and Trump cutting the budget could devastate education and civil service.
NY voted Blue because Hillary would have meant continued federal funding to keep NYC's middle class alive. Only Trump won, so don't think that NYC isn't at serious risk of major financial problems. If de Blasio defies Trump and keeps NYC as a sanctuary city the city council has already said that is 10 billion in federal funding lost.
As for restoring the rust belt, there are easy ways to do it. Trump has said he will spend 1 trillion in infrastructure. The government as a huge buyer of good and services can require that they are made in the US. Example MTA has an order of 300 r179 cars for the subway. They are made by Bombardier in upstate NY, and the parts are made in PA. Cuomo made the MTA buy trains made in the US. A Chinese company won the contract to build trains for Chicago Mass transit and Boston mass transit. Illinois and Massachusetts made the Chinese train company build factories in those states where they will build the trains.
Apple computer has said if it makes it's products in the US, they would have to charge an extra $100 which Apple fans would spend anyway.
Ya,we'll see what happens. Talk is cheap and politicians never do what they say they will do.Get back to me in 4 years with a report.I'll believe it when I see it.
If you are surprised at how and why upstate NY had the "population" it ever did; then suggest doing some research.
First came the canal system that allowed goods to be moved from and to upstate New York west. Soon the railroads came along and pushed aside the canal system for moving same.
Until the great PRR built its tunnels under the Hudson River all goods coming from the west, as well as those going that direction stopped at said river. There freight (and passengers) would be loaded onto ferries to reach New Jersey (there were ferries for both at one time to Brooklyn as well), from there onto points west.
However what became New York Central RR and a few others built ROWs further upstate where the Hudson is narrower thus easier to build bridges or whatever to cross. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selkirk_hurdle
If you were a manufacturer needed to reach the greater USA markets west, it made sense to locate your business upstate. At one time Buffalo had one of the busiest passenger and freight rail service in the Northeast. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...falo,_New_York
In addition to rail the areas of upstate near or with close access to the Great Lakes benefitted from shipping as well.
I know the history well. Just can't believe that so many people chose to live there even with the jobs.Honestly wouldn't live up there if it doubled my income.If I were born there I'd get the hell out ASAP.
Ya,we'll see what happens. Talk is cheap and politicians never do what they say they will do.Get back to me in 4 years with a report.I'll believe it when I see it.
In the case of Cuomo and the governors of MA and IL, they did what they promised and required those trains to be made in the USA. Lots of politicians do what they promise. Obama promised Affordable Healthcare and he did it. He got gays in the military (he promised this after the election). Clinton promised he would do trade agreements (NAFTA and the WTO) and he delivered on that promise.
I notice you conveniently ignored that automation can get of many of the civil service and office jobs in NYC and truthfully already has, with more to come.
MTA could get rid of remaining token booth clerks, and commuter train ticket sales agents. The new models of trains could basically drive themselves. You can apply for medicaid and food stamps online.
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