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Old 03-10-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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Sounds like an all-around bad hombre.
There is really nothing extraordinary about him, in fact he is probably representative of most white cops in the NYPD. It's a well known fact that white power has large numbers in law enforcement.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:48 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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There is really nothing extraordinary about him, in fact he is probably representative of most white cops in the NYPD. It's a well known fact that white power has large numbers in law enforcement.
I really doubt that's true. I know people who are NYPD of different ethnicities. It'd be pretty crazy to believe that this guy is representative of most white cops. I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all, but "most" and to this extreme? Nope, nope, nope.
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Old 03-10-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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I really doubt that's true. I know people who are NYPD of different ethnicities. It'd be pretty crazy to believe that this guy is representative of most white cops. I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all, but "most" and to this extreme? Nope, nope, nope.
Why do you think they are always running around murdering black people in cold blood in suspicious circumstances?

Yes of course, we do have a racist judicial and criminal justice system that is fundamentally rooted in racist slavery, but also because many of the people that flock to protect this racist system are themselves of course mentally unstable racists.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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Why do you think they are always running around murdering black people in cold blood in suspicious circumstances?

Yes of course, we do have a racist judicial and criminal justice system that is fundamentally rooted in racist slavery, but also because many of the people that flock to protect this racist system are themselves of course mentally unstable racists.
Racial biases exist and are far flung in time and scope--I'm not arguing against that. What I'm arguing against is the idea that most (majority) of white cops are anywhere near as bad as this guy was. That's simply way too exaggerated of a statement. The cops don't make the laws nor are the main driver of socioeconomic conditions and a large part of the police force take seriously the idea that they are meant to protect and serve, and at the very least are not the bigoted, criminal miscreant this guy was. It doesn't help the case of trying to push reform, retraining and greater accountability by pushing something so false.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Why do you think they are always running around murdering black people in cold blood in suspicious circumstances?

Yes of course, we do have a racist judicial and criminal justice system that is fundamentally rooted in racist slavery, but also because many of the people that flock to protect this racist system are themselves of course mentally unstable racists.
You're using terms like "most" and "always" in ways that.. well.. ways that those words don't cover.

Cops kill Black people in cold blood, in actuality, very rarely. I'm a Black man, and while I do have a healthy fear/disdain for cops.. if it really was "most" and "always" like you say, we'd see this **** literally everyday. At least once a week in the City. In reality, it happens a tiny percent of the time. Still WAY too often (which is indicative of systemic issues that clearly exist)- it needs to happen zero percent of the time- but hardly all that much, in actuality.

NYPD is obviously racist systemically, and I would go as far as saying there is definitely a large enough plurality of racist cops that it's a problem... but saying "most" without any real evidence is probably just wrong.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:48 AM
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Why do you think they are always running around murdering black people in cold blood in suspicious circumstances?

Yes of course, we do have a racist judicial and criminal justice system that is fundamentally rooted in racist slavery, but also because many of the people that flock to protect this racist system are themselves of course mentally unstable racists.


Don't be an idiot. Of course there are racist cops, perhaps at a higher percentage than the population at large, but its not "most". That's your prejudice showing.


And what do you think will happen in a country where guns and knives are rife and the police, like in every other country, are basically charged with the duty of telling people they can't do something or stopping them from doing it? Thats half of what police do, the other being following up after a crime has occured. I'll give you a clue what happens when you're in a uniform telling someone they can't do something - altercations. Which sometimes escalate to scuffles, some fights and, inevitably, shooting.


This is the same reason why BLM makes such poor progress in large scale support. It can't distinguish between an a-hole like Michael Brown intimidating shop owners, getting into an actual physical fight with a cop and duh, jeopardizing his life and ending up shot versus actual heinous acts and basically murder - like the shooting of Walter Scott.


Walter Scott, and his killer, are barely known, as his case, with basically next to nothing from BLM or nationwide protests - , whereas Brown's death results in weeks of riots and everyone knows his name.


Talk about failure of a movement.


btw the criminal justice system is rooted in British criminal common law which started before the US was even a country.
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Old 03-10-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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BLM doesnt kill anybody you liar.
At least 10 cops died because of them, maybe more. Forgot those 2 cops that were killed in Bed Stuy back in December 2014? Oh wait, that never happened.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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At least 10 cops died because of them, maybe more. Forgot those 2 cops that were killed in Bed Stuy back in December 2014? Oh wait, that never happened.
That wasn't BLM dumbass. That was a mentally ill man who was not involved in the movement.

Besides white people have killed tons of cops since the , are you going to talk about those white guys who kills cops? No because you are full of $hit and a hypocrit
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:04 PM
 
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That wasn't BLM dumbass. That was a mentally ill man who was not involved in the movement.

Besides white people have killed tons of cops since the , are you going to talk about those white guys who kills cops? No because you are full of $hit and a hypocrit
Nice excuse.

You forgot to mention that the majority of people who die by cops every year are white.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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Don't be an idiot. Of course there are racist cops, perhaps at a higher percentage than the population at large, but its not "most". That's your prejudice showing.


And what do you think will happen in a country where guns and knives are rife and the police, like in every other country, are basically charged with the duty of telling people they can't do something or stopping them from doing it? Thats half of what police do, the other being following up after a crime has occured. I'll give you a clue what happens when you're in a uniform telling someone they can't do something - altercations. Which sometimes escalate to scuffles, some fights and, inevitably, shooting.


This is the same reason why BLM makes such poor progress in large scale support. It can't distinguish between an a-hole like Michael Brown intimidating shop owners, getting into an actual physical fight with a cop and duh, jeopardizing his life and ending up shot versus actual heinous acts and basically murder - like the shooting of Walter Scott.


Walter Scott, and his killer, are barely known, as his case, with basically next to nothing from BLM or nationwide protests - , whereas Brown's death results in weeks of riots and everyone knows his name.


Talk about failure of a movement.


btw the criminal justice system is rooted in British criminal common law which started before the US was even a country.
Hey genius,


Other countries people have weapons too, and guess what? Cops don't just slaughter people like they do here

This happens here because 1.) cops always get away with murder no matter what in this system 2.) whites are taught from birth to hate blacks

And you really must be blind or living under a rock if you really think BLM didn't get mass support. Literally millions of people took the streets across the country shutting down highways, malls, and city centers. You and I would not be talking about BLM right now if it wasn't successful in sweeping the nation
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