NY State Budget Makes CUNY Free, and those under 18 won't be tried as adults! (New York: for rent, student loans)
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Put it like this, it's better to graduate with a degree from CUNY than it is from a No Name private university. Or honestly if you just want to be a nurse or a teacher going to an Ivy makes no sense. Go to a CUNY instead.
Far as one knows no "Ivy League" university still offers undergraduate degree in nursing. Columbia shut their program years ago and even recently got shot of their dual BSN/MSN program. It is strictly post graduate only.
NYU while ever pretending otherwise, is not an Ivy League college, but offers undergraduate BSN degree in nursing.
As for teaching I don't know. If one has the academic chops and so forth would take Columbia or other IL college over CUNY or even SUNY
By all accounts no matter what the degree CUNY schools are all various levels of Hades. From administration on down it seems half the challenge is just getting an education.
As it relates to nursing, good luck with that at CUNY or even SUNY programs. Every single one both ADN and BSN programs have vastly more qualified applicants than they can accept each semester. People actually get fed up with trying to get into Hunter-Bellevue and go to a private college such as NYU instead.
Far as one knows no "Ivy League" university still offers undergraduate degree in nursing. Columbia shut their program years ago and even recently got shot of their dual BSN/MSN program. It is strictly post graduate only.
NYU while ever pretending otherwise, is not an Ivy League college, but offers undergraduate BSN degree in nursing.
As for teaching I don't know. If one has the academic chops and so forth would take Columbia or other IL college over CUNY or even SUNY
By all accounts no matter what the degree CUNY schools are all various levels of Hades. From administration on down it seems half the challenge is just getting an education.
As it relates to nursing, good luck with that at CUNY or even SUNY programs. Every single one both ADN and BSN programs have vastly more qualified applicants than they can accept each semester. People actually get fed up with trying to get into Hunter-Bellevue and go to a private college such as NYU instead.
I wasn't aware that Columbia shut down its duel BSN/MSN program. With that said you are correct, the Ivies all got rid of their undergraduate nursing programs.
With what you said about it being hard to get into Hunter-Bellevue, it will get even harder now that it is free. Getting into the teacher ed programs at CUNY will likely be harder to get in.
The only Ibies that have education schools are Columbia, Harvard, and the University of Pennsylvania. Most of the people at Columbia's Teachers College are getting advanced degrees in psychology, fewer than 1/3rd of the students there are in teachers ed programs. Those that enter teachers ed programs teach for a little while after graduation, then go out for a phd, for law school or for private industry. Many of these formers teachers go into academia, administration, or publishing. Many of the people going to Harvard's graduate school of education mainly go into academia, publishing,?or administration. University of Pennsylvania is similar.
But if you know for a fact all you want to do is classroom teach, you don't go to an Ivy. The financials do not make sense. You'd spend too much money and get too little back.
As for teaching I don't know. If one has the academic chops and so forth would take Columbia or other IL college over CUNY or even SUNY
There more opportunity and money to be made by graduating from Ivy league with education background. People buy into the prestige of an Ivy league degree. It helps with self promotion and landing a coveted senior government position/policy influence and selling books.
I wouldn't be surprise if Angela Duckworth is making good money with coining "grit" as the one attribute young kids lack now a days.
Mass incarceration and other socioeconomic problems of course affected the graduation rates. It's not the job of the teachers to fix all that is wrong with their students, instead it's up to the rest of society. The war on drugs has also locked up a lot of parents, and children without stable homes of course won't do well in school.
All true - but charters (in NYC - can't speak for elsewhere) have made big gains with black and hispanic kids from poor backgrounds. Yet the current NYC educational-union-progressives complex fights that. Kids be damned - its dogma that counts.
All true - but charters (in NYC - can't speak for elsewhere) have made big gains with black and hispanic kids from poor backgrounds. Yet the current NYC educational-union-progressives complex fights that. Kids be damned - its dogma that counts.
NYC has also decriminalized weed, legalized medical marijuana, at least partially decriminalized prostitution, etc. They cracked down on discrimination in housing and in employment. So a lot of outside changes happened.
According to my parent. CUNY schools used to be amazing and very hard to get into. I think this is good. Get rid of over crowding, raise standards, and keep educated nyer's natives here.
As for the jail. Rikers is no where for anyone under 18 that is non violent. They will come home 100 times worse. I have worked with that population. Sending them there is probably the worse option.
Well that's true and not true...I don't know about amazing...but back in the 1950s and earlier, colleges like City College, Queens College and Brooklyn College (the three flag ships) were considered "The poor man's Harvard." They put out a few Nobel prize laureates and a few other distinct honors only held by the most highly regarded schools and that's primarily due to the poor Eastern European Jewish immigrants of that time who went on to attend those colleges astheir only option...
Times have changed though, with more people having access to private Universities and colleges (think Columbia, NYU, Fordham etc etc) that talent has gone elsewhere...
And I could be wrong, but I believe CUNY and SUNY still have that two year agreement of as long as you complete a 2 year degree...you are automatically admitted to a 4 year CUNY/SUNY institution. It's basically open enrollment. "Free" college will basically inflate that even more.
I personally don't see the point. The tuition is as about as cheap as it can already be...plus with pell grants people were basically paying nothing. The Colleges will get overcrowded with a lot of unprepared kids coming into the system, and create a high turnover rate. It'll get that rep again of being "13th grade" like it was in the 70s.
And I could be wrong, but I believe CUNY and SUNY still have that two year agreement of as long as you complete a 2 year degree...you are automatically admitted to a 4 year CUNY/SUNY institution. It's basically open enrollment. "Free" college will basically inflate that even more.
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Once one has the Associates, the transfer is pretty easy to some schools within the same system. But a large hurdle is that the credits may have no match to transfer over too. Thus they may have to lose a year or basically start over again.
Once one has the Associates, the transfer is pretty easy to some schools within the same system. But a large hurdle is that the credits may have no match to transfer over too. Thus they may have to lose a year or basically start over again.
I've heard that too. But I also heard that you were guaranteed a seat in one of the four-year colleges, as long as you held a 2.0? Or am I wrong?
After Pell Grants and TAP nearly all CUNY or SUNY students pay little to no tuition as it is; which isn't a great feat when full time day for CUNY is $3,165 per semester.
This is absolutely not correct!
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