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Old 05-04-2017, 01:05 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The big spike has yet to come. Once Dod-Frank goes out, companies will be back taking bigger investment risks. If anyone has learned from Bush era is there are alot more market plays with deregulation. Obama kept money off the market because too few have the credit to get capital. We will see even bigger market swings in the future.
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Old 05-05-2017, 02:41 AM
 
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I started moving some assets out of equities just before the election ( when everything was already at all time highs) and have continued doing that with increasing acceleration as the market has kept moving up. I am getting too old to take a 25% plus haircut that will take 10 years to recover from. When I was younger I would just let everything sit and ride it out. Not this time. Soon everyone is going to realize Trump is full of **** and doesn't know what he is doing and that the economy is not going to grow by 3 or 4 % every year for the next 4 years. When that happens the **** is going to hit the fan.
You sound like an emotional investor. Any specific reason in regards to fundamentals that are causing you to pull out the market? Is it the absurd amount of debt that we've racked up over the past decade? Particular in comparison to GDP and stagnant wages that worry you?

Sounds like you already took a nice haircut since the election. Be a man and short the market.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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You sound like an emotional investor. Any specific reason in regards to fundamentals that are causing you to pull out the market? Is it the absurd amount of debt that we've racked up over the past decade? Particular in comparison to GDP and stagnant wages that worry you?

Sounds like you already took a nice haircut since the election. Be a man and short the market.
Whatever. Don't know how it sounds emotional when I systematically invested for 35 years through numerous major crashes without ever panicking or taking a cent out of the market going up or down. Even my ongoing exit is quite planned.Didn't want to jump all out in one year for obvious tax reasons, balancing sale of winners with dogs,etc.
Better word would be methodical which is the opposite of emotional. Professionals call it dollar cost averaging.Whatever you think of the strategy doesn't matter because it has done a really ,really good job for me.

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Old 05-05-2017, 05:42 AM
 
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Whatever. Don't know how it sounds emotional when I systematically invested for 35 years through numerous major crashes without ever panicking or taking a cent out of the market going up or down. Even my ongoing exit is quite planned.Didn't want to jump all out in one year for obvious tax reasons, balancing sale of winners with dogs,etc.
Better word would be methodical which is the opposite of emotional. Professionals call it dollar cost averaging.
Whatever yourself. Selling on Trump isn't translated as dollar cost averaging by any professional means. Sounds to me you got your panties all up in a bunch over the election and now your taking it out on your retirement account.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Whatever yourself. Selling on Trump isn't translated as dollar cost averaging by any professional means. Sounds to me you got your panties all up in a bunch over the election and now your taking it out on your retirement account.
No, I always planned to exit once I had secured my financial future and hoped it could coincide near or around a top. I see more risk to the down in the next couple of years and do not want to sit through another 8 or 10 year market cycle. I have no need to.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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Whatever. Don't know how it sounds emotional when I systematically invested for 35 years through numerous major crashes without ever panicking or taking a cent out of the market going up or down. Even my ongoing exit is quite planned.Didn't want to jump all out in one year for obvious tax reasons, balancing sale of winners with dogs,etc.
Better word would be methodical which is the opposite of emotional. Professionals call it dollar cost averaging.Whatever you think of the strategy doesn't matter because it has done a really ,really good job for me.

G-dale has every right to judge you to make himself happy, but nothing he says would change the fact that you are a successful investor and a winner in the brutal market place...
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Old 05-05-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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No, I always planned to exit once I had secured my financial future and hoped it could coincide near or around a top. I see more risk to the down in the next couple of years and do not want to sit through another 8 or 10 year market cycle. I have no need to.
I pulled out once it was clear Obama was going to be our next president. The political risk he posed at the time contributed significantly to the downward pressures on the market. Of course politicians would only place the blame on an entire banking system (of which only a small percentage of the participants were involved) that was basically used by the politicians themselves as a utility to execute widespread misconception and fraud. Once it was clear that the Republicans were able to keep Obama from executing on his Marxist ideologies, I moved my money back in. I did stupidly pull a good portion of my money back out right before this past election as I thought Hillary was going to be a sure win, but I've been jumping back in on every opportunity that's come available. For the most part I too have been waiting for the big correction, but Trump delayed that for a few years. Unfortunately, as you can see from all the protests, that we are still on the road to destruction that will ultimately come from high levels of debt to GDP demands by the left.
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Old 05-05-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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G-dale has every right to judge you to make himself happy, but nothing he says would change the fact that you are a successful investor and a winner in the brutal market place...
Shut up and go create another divisive thread.
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:04 AM
 
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what are all these protestors think they will accomplish trump won, he is the president now go home and get a life. sore losers
Fire department should just come and get the hose out and soak em all down!
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Old 05-05-2017, 10:14 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You sound like an emotional investor. Any specific reason in regards to fundamentals that are causing you to pull out the market? Is it the absurd amount of debt that we've racked up over the past decade? Particular in comparison to GDP and stagnant wages that worry you?

Sounds like you already took a nice haircut since the election. Be a man and short the market.
Yeah, he is an emotional investor because if we had a Democrat in office, you wouldn't hear a peep out of him about how terrible and risky the market will be. Just a naysayer who can't stand Trump, so he'll take cheap shots at the guy any chance he can. Pathetic.
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