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Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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I was born in L.A. Moved east in '89 to the rustbelt. I only live in NYC part time. Can't afford it full time, nor could I take the stress. But I like my periodic fix of NYC.
Um, you responded to someone who shared his personal experiences about Cleveland and working in Manhattan offices with nothing but how you doubt that's true. And who said that NYC is the most segregated city except you?
He spoke about people in Cleveland being friendly, he did not speak on whether or not the neighborhoods were more or less segregated than those of NYC.
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Originally Posted by NyWriterdude
I've been to a number of US cities, and most don't have immigration to the extent of NYC, and most don't have gentrification to the extent of NYC either. NYC is unique in that most neighborhoods are accessible by mass transit, and that due to various apartment subsidies poor people can live across the street or in some cases in the same building with well off people.
I also do not believe NYC is the most segregated city in the nation. NYC has a big activist base that speaks out about issues like social marginalization, etc.
Isn't the whole idea of a metropolis that the most open-minded people from everywhere would be coming to live there? I thought people out in the boondocks hated newcomers and dam forinners, not people in the city which is supposed to be the de facto capital of the world! ( for the record, I am not a "transplant" yet. I was considering to retire to NYC as the crown of all my efforts in life, but I am having second thoughts seeing how much hate, petty parochialism and small-mindedness seems to prevail on NYC topics on this forum. If I wanted a boondocks mentality, I could have just stayed in the boondocks. LA sounds like an idea to explore, though. At least, in LA I have heard the word "transplant" only in association with hair).
yep. you are right, but oddly new york can be provincial. well in particular the attitudes of some who happen to mainly be natives.
He spoke about people in Cleveland being friendly, he did not speak on whether or not the neighborhoods were more or less segregated than those of NYC.
Right, so your posts are kind of irrelevant? Like you want to defend that NYC is not as segregated as other cities or something but that's not even the point of transplants talking about their experience of moving here. And it was clear that he was talking about his personal experiences and his interactions with others and not whatever academic definition some people like to argue.
How do you determine how segregation in other cities compare to each other anyway? I've been to many other cities but I spend most of my time in the downtown areas and don't venture out to all the residential neighborhoods. Also diversity and segregation are different things, and most diverse cities are highly segregated. This should be a topic for another thread but since you seem interested in this topic, here's Nate Silver's take on it. NYC is pretty high on the list using his methodology:
Honestly, I've never heard the word transplant (with regards to domestic immigration to NYC) off the internet.
"Transplant" seems to just be a silly label that people like to throw around.
My background is similar to yours....born in NYC, grew up in the suburbs, regularly visited the outer boroughs because of relatives and family friends, went away to college, then moved to NYC for work. Most people I know are also from the NYC metro area. I don't find people from other states to be much different either. Suburbs are suburbs. Most are used to a slightly higher quality of life compared to those who grew up in NYC itself so we tend to move to nicer areas if we can afford it or at least surround ourselves with people who have similar backgrounds. I know a few people who hate it here so they stay a few years primarily to advance their careers, then move back home or to other cities/areas. There are others who really love it or marry locals so they end up staying for good.
I think the way people use the word "transplant" here, they actually mean "from the suburbs". In which case, I'm totally a transplant. There is so much about living in a dense city like NYC that I never understood until I moved here after school.
He spoke about people in Cleveland being friendly, he did not speak on whether or not the neighborhoods were more or less segregated than those of NYC.
I think there is a misunderstanding as we are looking at race and segregation differently. I stated I assimilated better in Cleveland from personal experience compared to other parts of the country. I don't expect everyone to have the same answer as I view it as a multi-variable critieria based on skin color, ethnicity, socialeconomic class, education/culture of the person and area, etc... Similarly being a celebrity tends to transcend your race so they can assimilate better in certain sectors of society. You can be a white person and feel segregated/marginalized in certain areas of the country.
Me either. It's really just used by a handful of posters here and not the majority. Basically it's a code word for white.
Than you want me to use a new term. "Suburban Refugee".
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