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Old 07-08-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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That is a Universal basic income that is for everybody, regardless of their economical status.
Everybody? What does that mean?
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Old 07-08-2017, 09:11 PM
 
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Everybody? What does that mean?
It's mean for all people/ young,old, children, working, non working.Poor or rich. Every person entitled to this Universal basiic income. The pioneering already started at Finland, Germany, France, Canada (Ontario). And now at Hawaii.
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Old 07-09-2017, 07:27 AM
 
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What if we offered UBI to anyone who graduates High School? This should encourage both families and the students themselves to set aside any distractions and focus on acquiring a solid educational foundation.

Perhaps if we offer UBI for young people, we can also require that they invest a portion it into some sort of retirement plan which would then allow us to reduce/eliminate social security later down the line.
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Old 07-09-2017, 08:39 AM
 
Location: NYC
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UBI is basically extended unemployment benefits. NYC pays the lowest. NJ pays nearly 40% more than NY does and TX pays almost 2x what NY pays for unemployment benefits.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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What will the UBI be if it was in NYC?

I bet it'll be higher than a lot of poor working people's salaries. Then they will say, "why work? The city will pay me to not work! Look at all those bums getting paid to not work!" and who can blame them? Then we'll have some big problems...

Also, bronxguy, take this from a STEM PhD candidate who has been looking on the market: STEM is not a solid career guarantee anymore, except code monkeys. Sure more STEM people make it than liberal arts but people seem to have a false impression that "STEM degree = well paying job right out of college". All my physical sciences friends (and myself) and life science friends are having some trouble. Only coders and some types of engineers are REALLY doing well. As usual, the people making the most money are useless business douches.
This is very true. IT jobs can be easily automated in the years to come.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: NYC
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What if we offered UBI to anyone who graduates High School? This should encourage both families and the students themselves to set aside any distractions and focus on acquiring a solid educational foundation.

Perhaps if we offer UBI for young people, we can also require that they invest a portion it into some sort of retirement plan which would then allow us to reduce/eliminate social security later down the line.
Young people that have no idea how to manage money would just waste it all on personal indulgences. Similar to how people on welfare.

Social Security is not like UBI because it's based on your own contribution, people who paid a lot into it will get more while people who have paid little to none would get the minimal it's not the same.

I don't think UBI should be handed out directly to anyone without certain level of education or understand financial responsibility.

Majority of college kids today have no idea how serious student debt is until much later on.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Guaranteed income is inevitable. The only question is the timing and perhaps how many cities have to be burnt to the ground.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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^ that's the thing about leftism. It doesn't care who dies as long as it forces it's will upon everyone else.

Rest assured, if cities start to burn, it won't be leftism that wins in this country.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Staten Island
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^ that's the thing about leftism. It doesn't care who dies as long as it forces it's will upon everyone else.

Rest assured, if cities start to burn, it won't be leftism that wins in this country.
yep
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: New York
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There are so many opinions about what people would, or moreoever, what people would NOT do if they had universal basic income. Most of them based on conservative ideology. All speculative. None based on facts.

Overwhelming evidence suggest that people will be MORE productive, not less.

http://erf.org.eg/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/1090.pdf

Quora Question: Does Universal Basic Income Work?

Is There Proof That Universal Basic Income Works? | International Business Times

https://futurism.com/evidence-indica...-human-health/
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