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Old 07-07-2017, 06:35 PM
 
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(that's all utilities and cable, etc included though) so it's not awful, and it's on a very nice block. I just don't want to move to a ****ty area and have to pay the same amount for a studio with roaches and rats and people who will throw rocks at me when I pick up my dog's poop off the street. I lived on a ****ty block before I moved here and when I would pick up my dog's poop people would call me the F word and say only F's do that :/

You get to a point where NYC isn't worth it anymore, but sometimes you get STUCK. I need to learn how to drive lol
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Old 07-07-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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This is why more market rate housing is needed in Prime Manhattan/Brooklyn. The next mayor (because I doubt DeBlasio would go for this) needs to make this a key part of their housing plan. Without more market rate housing being built the problem will never really get solved.
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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(that's all utilities and cable, etc included though) so it's not awful, and it's on a very nice block. I just don't want to move to a ****ty area and have to pay the same amount for a studio with roaches and rats and people who will throw rocks at me when I pick up my dog's poop off the street. I lived on a ****ty block before I moved here and when I would pick up my dog's poop people would call me the F word and say only F's do that :/

You get to a point where NYC isn't worth it anymore, but sometimes you get STUCK. I need to learn how to drive lol
Port Chester, Stamford, New Rochelle, White Plains still not that far from NYC
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:03 PM
 
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(that's all utilities and cable, etc included though) so it's not awful, and it's on a very nice block. I just don't want to move to a ****ty area and have to pay the same amount for a studio with roaches and rats and people who will throw rocks at me when I pick up my dog's poop off the street. I lived on a ****ty block before I moved here and when I would pick up my dog's poop people would call me the F word and say only F's do that :/

You get to a point where NYC isn't worth it anymore, but sometimes you get STUCK. I need to learn how to drive lol
Somebody is throwing rocks at you while you have a handful of dog **** and you can't figure out how to get them to top?

Put that dog **** to use!
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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This is why more market rate housing is needed in Prime Manhattan/Brooklyn. The next mayor (because I doubt DeBlasio would go for this) needs to make this a key part of their housing plan. Without more market rate housing being built the problem will never really get solved.
Dude, the subway is essentially breaking, and there is no realistic relief insight.

So why would NYC build all this housing when they have no way for these people to get around? The current MTA can barely deal with the current passenger load? They need system upgrades and expansions, but the money just isn't there yet to do what needs to be done.

Honestly it's not people's God given right to live in NYC, and I know plenty of people who have moved to other places and enjoyed their lives.
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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Dude, the subway is essentially breaking, and there is no realistic relief insight.

So why would NYC build all this housing when they have no way for these people to get around? The current MTA can barely deal with the current passenger load? They need system upgrades and expansions, but the money just isn't there yet to do what needs to be done.

Honestly it's not people's God given right to live in NYC, and I know plenty of people who have moved to other places and enjoyed their lives.
Would you stop it already
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Old 07-07-2017, 08:35 PM
 
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Dude, the subway is essentially breaking, and there is no realistic relief insight. So why would NYC build all this housing when they have no way for these people to get around? The current MTA can barely deal with the current passenger load? They need system upgrades and expansions, but the money just isn't there yet to do what needs to be done.
We need to be using value capture to build new subways, including expanded ones under the existing lines.


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Honestly it's not people's God given right to live in NYC, and I know plenty of people who have moved to other places and enjoyed their lives.
I don't disagree with this statement, however, the political reality dictates that no one would get elected to any city office (save maybe out on SI) saying such a thing. The idea of staying in NYC as a "right" has become the default position of many in the affordable housing discussion.
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Old 07-07-2017, 10:02 PM
 
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We need to be using value capture to build new subways, including expanded ones under the existing lines.




I don't disagree with this statement, however, the political reality dictates that no one would get elected to any city office (save maybe out on SI) saying such a thing. The idea of staying in NYC as a "right" has become the default position of many in the affordable housing discussion.
I have no problem with the former, but we would need very different leadership in City Hall, Albany, and in Washington for this to come to pass.

The city doesn't control the MTA. It really could sell bonds backed by real estate taxes collected from areas benefiting from new subways (Bloomberg did this for the 7 train expansion), but they don't seem to be interested in doing this on a broader scale (they don't control the MTA).

Meanwhile since it's going to be awhile before we get major subway expansion, the infrastructure is just not there to allow massive new highrises to sprout in areas currently not zoned for them.
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Old 07-08-2017, 12:45 AM
 
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Am going to remind some people that $1500 a month means one person has to earn $60,000 a year. The median income for a typical household is around that. That is not exactly cheap for a studio, and it is becoming more difficult to find apartments cheaper than $1300 - 1400 even in the poorest areas of NYC. Am wondering how much some people make that think $1500 is cheap? Most New Yorkers have not seen their salaries go up. They just live with roommates, but are not making 60 - 80k a year or more.
The vast majority of people in The Bronx and NYC for the matter make way under 60k, so you're right.

I certainly don't think $1500 is cheap to live in the hood.

Look at how much it costs to live in the poor parts of most other US cities, huuuge difference.
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Old 07-08-2017, 12:56 AM
 
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Enter those lotteries and start wearing good luck charms, homie.

Or be forced to move to South Dakota.
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