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I don't think anyone here is arguing that the police can't search people with probable cause, but systematically searching black people going about their business is wrong.
Right. And I stated I was against searching people based on their race/ethnicity.
The NYPD did not search Black people systematically. They systematically searched people in high crime neighborhoods, and the people in these neighborhoods just happened to be Black.
Did the NYPD only search people in high crime neighborhoods?
Or don't they search suspicious-looking people in all neighborhoods?
Did the NYPD only search people in high crime neighborhoods?
Or don't they search suspicious-looking people in all neighborhoods?
Went for the biggest bang for the buck. Why would they search low crime areas? Whole point of Stop and Frisk is to reduce crime in high-crime areas using what limited resources exist. Am thinking you propose resources should be *wasted* in Manhattan Beach, Bergen Beach, Bay Ridge, Dyker Heights, Brooklyn Heights and Mill Basin as opposed to East New York or Brownsville.
I'll start with a few examples for ****s and giggles.
-"Progressive" but live in all white neighborhoods.
-"Progressive" but threaten WW3 if their schools are slated for rezoning/ integration.
-"Progressive" but most of their friends are white but hey, they have a black/Hispanic friend who just so happens to serve them coffee every morning.
Utterly ridiculous. You're talking about transplants, not NY progressive liberals. I'm from the UWS (yes, it was predominantly Jewish and/or White) but by no means was that always the case -- it used to have a heavy Puerto Rican presence up until the 80s. And did we White Liberal Progressives oppose it? NO.
Rezoning? You bet I'm supporting rezoning (as are my progressive liberal friends of ALL races).
All White neighborhoods? WTF do you think NYC is? Kansas?
Don't confuse fake trust-fund transplants working "in finance" or "tech" with real progressive liberals. We are EXTREMELY opposed to gentrification in all its forms.
White neighborhoods have lower crime rates. Duh. Your curiosity sounds more like obliviousness.
Not all of the "white" neighborhoods have low crime rates.
Neighborhoods in Manhattan like Union Square and midtown, which have mostly white residents, have relatively high crime rates. (check out the crime map).
I am certainly hoping that the NYPD did stop and frisk in those neighborhoods too.
Went for the biggest bang for the buck. Why would they search low crime areas? Whole point of Stop and Frisk is to reduce crime in high-crime areas using what limited resources exist. Am thinking you propose resources should be *wasted* in Manhattan Beach, Bergen Beach, Bay Ridge, Dyker Heights, Brooklyn Heights and Mill Basin as opposed to East New York or Brownsville.
Again, I am not talking about far out outer borough neighborhoods (Bay Ridge, Mill Basin, etc.) These neighborhoods typically have lower crime rates.
(By the way, largely black outer borough- "2-fare zone"/not on subway - neighborhoods also have low crime rates: Flatlands, Canarsie, Rosedale, Laurelton, etc.).
I am talking about midtown and other Manhattan neighborhoods like Union Square which have quite high crime rates.
Not all of the "white" neighborhoods have low crime rates.
Neighborhoods in Manhattan like Union Square and midtown, which have mostly white residents, have relatively high crime rates. (check out the crime map).
I am certainly hoping that the NYPD did stop and frisk in those neighborhoods too.
Are we now comparing the largest CBD to mid-rise semi-suburb neighborhoods in the outerboros?
Plus I've seen plenty of cops in Union Square with tables out searching bags. There is definitely a high police presence.
And you call me ignorant for Google auto-complete software not picking up the correct spelling.
Utterly ridiculous. You're talking about transplants, not NY progressive liberals. I'm from the UWS (yes, it was predominantly Jewish and/or White) but by no means was that always the case -- it used to have a heavy Puerto Rican presence up until the 80s. And did we White Liberal Progressives oppose it? NO.
Rezoning? You bet I'm supporting rezoning (as are my progressive liberal friends of ALL races).
All White neighborhoods? WTF do you think NYC is? Kansas?
Don't confuse fake trust-fund transplants working "in finance" or "tech" with real progressive liberals. We are EXTREMELY opposed to gentrification in all its forms.
Did you do anything to stop the Puerto Rican displacement from the UWS as prices went up? No. You're proving wawaweewa's point. Recent arrivals have little or no interest in NYC politics. It's the long term NYC progressives that wawaweewa referred to. They maintained a district zoning for NYC which is inherently exclusive, racist, and classist, and yes this is worse than Kansas in some ways. Lay off the hypocrisy.
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