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Old 07-16-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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I don't know why you have to be a martyr in order to be considered a liberal now a days. People keep moving to extremes, there no middle ground anymore.

 
Old 07-16-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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I don't know why you have to be a martyr in order to be considered a liberal now a days. People keep moving to extremes, there no middle ground anymore.
I'm not sure what you're referring too. When has there been a "middle" ground? What makes the US do dynamic is that politics (as well as the politics of economics) tend to swing from one end to another fairly rapidly.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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I'm not sure what you're referring too. When has there been a "middle" ground? What makes the US do dynamic is that politics (as well as the politics of economics) tend to swing from one end to another fairly rapidly.
Before Bill Clinton came a long, democrats were not winning elections due to far liberal policies. He was the first one that comes to mind in terms of being moderate with social liberal tendencies (Obama is similar).
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:36 AM
 
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It's not by accident.
Of course not. It needs more attention from the public. Some of the boundaries on the map look absurd.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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I don't know why you have to be a martyr in order to be considered a liberal now a days. People keep moving to extremes, there no middle ground anymore.
Liberals aren't even liberal anymore. In many cases conservatives are more liberal than self-proclaimed liberals themselves.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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Liberals aren't even liberal anymore. In many cases conservatives are more liberal than self-proclaimed liberals themselves.
Many conservatives are more "libertarian" than many liberals.
(Except for abortion: they tend not to believe in free choice or lack of governmental control in that area.)
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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When you are that ridiculously wealthy, you shouldn't be able to pick and choose what charity to donate to. You should be taxed instead, simply to allocate your funds equitably. Otherwise you can wield far too much power over us regular people.
They are taxed. But they still have lots of money, and it is their choice entirely to give it to whatever charity they chose or to be honest they don't have to donate at all.

There is never away to 100% allocate resources equally, and there never would be. What you just said taken to it's ultimate conclusion is communism.

Your ideology is all over the place.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:48 AM
 
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Before Bill Clinton came a long, democrats were not winning elections due to far liberal policies. He was the first one that comes to mind in terms of being moderate with social liberal tendencies (Obama is similar).
This is what the Berniebros need to understand.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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I don't know why you have to be a martyr in order to be considered a liberal now a days. People keep moving to extremes, there no middle ground anymore.
Due to political polarization, plus the rise of social justice warriors. Though the social justice warriors got a huge blow with the election of Trump, and that the fact despite all of Trump's issues, there's no clear Democratic contender in 2020.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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Many conservatives are more "libertarian" than many liberals.
(Except for abortion: they tend not to believe in free choice or lack of governmental control in that area.)
Most conservatives are far from libertarian. Evidence of that being the fact that most conservatives support stop and frisk and most will support war.
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