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Old 07-14-2017, 01:10 AM
 
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Hello, I have a friend who landed a job in lower Manhattan (should be around 200k$/yr combined income with her husband). She has 4 kids, but her sister died a few years ago and she's taking care of her 6 children so they're going to basically be a family of 12.

Rent in nyc is very very expensive, so what's the minimum number of rooms/sqft they can legally live in?
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:30 AM
 
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The minimum is 80 square feet of "livable space" per person with certain exceptions for children under the age of 4..

NYC Rent Guidelines Board Sec. 27-2075 Maximum permitted occupancy
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Every person occupying an apartment in a class A or class B multiple dwelling or in a tenant-occupied apartment in a one- or two-family dwelling shall have a livable area of not less than eighty square feet. The maximum number of persons who may occupy any such apartment shall be determined by dividing the total livable floor area of the apartment by eighty square feet. For every two persons who may lawfully occupy an apartment, one child under four may also reside therein, except that a child under four is permitted in an apartment lawfully occupied by one person. No residual floor area of less than eighty square feet shall be counted in determining the maximum permitted occupancy for such apartment.

The floor area of a kitchen or kitchenette shall be included in measuring the total liveable floor area of an apartment but the floor area for private halls, foyers, bathrooms or water closets shall be excluded.
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Old 07-15-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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Why is she looking to rent an apartment, rather than a one- or two-family house in an outer borough, or outside the city?
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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how come your sis's baby daddy didn't take the kids?

She should buy a house in NJ, LI or upstate NY. An apartment is out of the question with 10 kids + 2 adults or 1 if your friend is doing it all by herself.
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Old 07-15-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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Hello, I have a friend who landed a job in lower Manhattan (should be around 200k$/yr combined income with her husband). She has 4 kids, but her sister died a few years ago and she's taking care of her 6 children so they're going to basically be a family of 12.

Rent in nyc is very very expensive, so what's the minimum number of rooms/sqft they can legally live in?


You can just forget right now renting an "apartment". By code and custom there aren't many apartments if Manhattan (or NYC for that matter) with enough square footage for twelve people. Maybe some duplex, triplex or loft apartments but you'll be paying $$$$ per month in rent assuming such a place could even be found.


For a household that size you'll need an actual *HOUSE*. Townhouse, private home, mansion, etc.... but they are the only properties that will provide enough square footage for that many people living under one roof. In case you were thinking about it; if you did manage to find an apartment and cram that many people inside if the city finds out; both LL and or yourselves could be in a world of trouble. Department of Buildings can (and likely) would cite for violating occupancy...


What persons have done to house that many people is rent multiple apartments in same building. This is possible depending upon financial and credit situation, but would be very expensive. For twelve people you'd need something like three or more three bedroom apartments (good luck with that), or even more two or one bedroom units.


Seriously just think about renting an entire building, remain where you are, or reduce the household size to something less than the Duggar family size.
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Old 07-15-2017, 06:16 PM
 
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I doubt you will find a house to rent with that many people. Most landlords won't do it.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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Thanks for the help everyone. The reason my friend asked me is because I lived in NYC when I was younger, though I don't remember much which is why I asked here.

If anybody's is curious (or has a similar issue), they're going to be renting a 5BR unit in a multi-family home in Ridgewood, Queens for about 3.6K/mo and the landlord has agreed to rent as well.
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