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Old 07-25-2017, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Have you ever been on a ****ing underground NYC subway platform?
34st Herald Square? B'dwy-Laffayette? High St?

What are you talking about?
I commute to 34st Herald Square and last week was absolutely hell down there. I started going to Penn Station and transfer to the F in Jay Street to avoid this.
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Old 07-25-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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Thank goodness I live next to an elevated line. Atleast the first part of the commute is fine.
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Old 07-27-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I commute to 34st Herald Square and last week was absolutely hell down there. I started going to Penn Station and transfer to the F in Jay Street to avoid this.

Jorge,


I find the worst Hell to be the Union Square station.
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Old 07-27-2017, 09:49 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Jorge,


I find the worst Hell to be the Union Square station.
Herald Square is definitely much soupyer
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:50 PM
 
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Just came in from hanging out downtown, and have to say some persons commenting in this thread don't know what the H&LL they are talking about.


At 11:30PM the Wall Street #4/5 station was like an oven. As you walked down the steps you could feel the heat radiating down from the asphalt street to station/tunnels below. It was so hot and humid down there that people were waiting either outside (around station entrance) or on the stairs.


Waiting to transfer at GCT things were nearly just as bad.


Only "natural cooling" such as it was came when a train was entering the station.
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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Just came in from hanging out downtown, and have to say some persons commenting in this thread don't know what the H&LL they are talking about.


At 11:30PM the Wall Street #4/5 station was like an oven. As you walked down the steps you could feel the heat radiating down from the asphalt street to station/tunnels below. It was so hot and humid down there that people were waiting either outside (around station entrance) or on the stairs.


Waiting to transfer at GCT things were nearly just as bad.


Only "natural cooling" such as it was came when a train was entering the station.

Same. 2/3 train by me was awful. Even after a few cooler days you cannot breath down there at all.
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Old 07-28-2017, 07:48 PM
 
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Just came in from hanging out downtown, and have to say some persons commenting in this thread don't know what the H&LL they are talking about.


At 11:30PM the Wall Street #4/5 station was like an oven. As you walked down the steps you could feel the heat radiating down from the asphalt street to station/tunnels below. It was so hot and humid down there that people were waiting either outside (around station entrance) or on the stairs.


Waiting to transfer at GCT things were nearly just as bad.


Only "natural cooling" such as it was came when a train was entering the station.
It's mostly to do with the AC exhaust of modern train cars. The stations were never built to vent such massive amounts of heat.

Each of the newer train car's has a 7.5ton (older trains have 10 ton units) AC unit. As a comparison, most single family homes have <5 ton units.

Most NYC trains have 10 cars? That's 900,000 BTU/hr being expelled out of each NYC train.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:52 AM
 
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It's mostly to do with the AC exhaust of modern train cars. The stations were never built to vent such massive amounts of heat.

Each of the newer train car's has a 7.5ton (older trains have 10 ton units) AC unit. As a comparison, most single family homes have <5 ton units.

Most NYC trains have 10 cars? That's 900,000 BTU/hr being expelled out of each NYC train.
Makes sense....Brooklyn Bridge - City Hall on the 4/5/6 is like hell on that platform, and all those trains are new....Chambers Street too on the 1/2/3...inferno.....
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Old 07-29-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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In every system I have been in, the subway stations are naturally cooled and need no extra equipment other than the ventilation for fresh air in some stations. It is probably 10-15 degrees cooler underground than it is on the surface.

Edit:

A little research shows that many of the stations are indeed hot in NYC. Not sure why that would be with the system being so far underground. It should have a cave effect down there.

Too many people, too much electricity use... and a kilowatt-hour of electricity is a kilowatt-hour of heat.

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Old 07-29-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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actually 3.4 btu's per hour per watt . i remember that from my ac tech days . so a 60 watt lamp throws off 204 btu's per hour
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