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Old 07-23-2017, 05:06 PM
 
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The racist liberals are the Berniebros who don't care about social issues and only care about promoting socialism to white people

And even they are not racist the same way most Trump supporters are
Bernietards are just entrained communists following along with the zionist agenda that their college professors brainwashed them into.

Clinton supporters are the real racists though.

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Old 07-23-2017, 05:26 PM
 
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Boogey votes on the side of the oppressors. Just doesn't realize it yet.
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Old 07-23-2017, 05:49 PM
 
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LOL you can't be racist against whites. You can't be racist against oppressors who hold state and institutional power and use it for genocide.

That's like saying the slaves were racist against their poor little plantation masters

That's like saying Jews were racist against the poor little Nazis

That's like saying Native Americans were racist against the meek pilgrims

You sound ridiculous saying blacks can be "racist" against people who've systemically created genocide against them
Your statements are also racist against Black people. If Harlem were kept all Black, poor neighborhood, that's the definition of the marginalization and the exclusion of Black people from society. Becoming communist or anti capitalist will not help Black people at all.

Come up with more constructive ways of dealing with the disproportionate EXCLUSION of minorities from the US and worldwide economic system, which works pretty well for white people in general.
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Old 07-23-2017, 05:55 PM
 
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This is the reason why I have discontent with liberal SJW apologetic white people, yet they are the ones that harbor racist and classist undertones. More and more liberals have been coming out as classist and racists these days after the defeat of Hillary Clinton.
I'm not sure why you simple out white "liberals" as racist. It doesn't matter whether a white person is "liberal" or "conservative". Quite frankly there's research that flat out says a white man who got out of prison is more likely to get calls back for jobs than a minority with a degree.

Put it like this, there are a number of straight white male businessmen who found success with no college degrees. Steve Jobs, Zuckberberg, Gates, and a number of others.

Could a person of color from the Bronx do that? No, investors are highly unlikely to support a poor person of color from the Bronx (or anywhere else in the city) who also likely doesn't have access to those social circles.

To be competitive with white people, business people, etc studies have said a person of color needs an advanced degree/professional degree.

I feel that's one thing you can't bring yourself to truly deal with, though you know this. But you hide behind codewords like transplants, liberal SJW, etc.

Just go out and say it directly, and deal with that. And fight against it in general, for yourself and for people from your community.

Btw, I think you have excellent ideas on public transportation. But an idiot like Lhota, who before coming the MTA CEO could be hired to do that with no background in public transportation. Could a person of color from the Bronx be as likely to get the same opportunity? No. Freddy Ferrer, who has a MPA, served as acting chairman. Not as the regular appointee.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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Could a person of color from the Bronx do that? No, investors are highly unlikely to support a poor person of color from the Bronx (or anywhere else in the city) who also likely doesn't have access to those social circles.

To be competitive with white people, business people, etc studies have said a person of color needs an advanced degree/professional degree.

I feel that's one thing you can't bring yourself to truly deal with, though you know this. But you hide behind codewords like transplants, liberal SJW, etc.

Just go out and say it directly, and deal with that. And fight against it in general, for yourself and for people from your community.
Not everything is about race. People self segregate themselves based on multiple criteria (race, education, class, ideology, etc...). From studies and person experience, in order to escape poverty you have to be lucky to have mentors in your life who will help isolate you from the negative parts of the surrounding community and make you focus on academics. Many times people who come from poor background stay poor, because they continue to make bad decisions. I was lucky to get exposure to diverse thinking in public school and with the internet.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:25 PM
 
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This thread went from a noise complaint about ice cream truck to hillary clinton to white oppression of minorities....
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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I'm not sure why you simple out white "liberals" as racist. It doesn't matter whether a white person is "liberal" or "conservative". Quite frankly there's research that flat out says a white man who got out of prison is more likely to get calls back for jobs than a minority with a degree.

Put it like this, there are a number of straight white male businessmen who found success with no college degrees. Steve Jobs, Zuckberberg, Gates, and a number of others.

Could a person of color from the Bronx do that? No, investors are highly unlikely to support a poor person of color from the Bronx (or anywhere else in the city) who also likely doesn't have access to those social circles.

To be competitive with white people, business people, etc studies have said a person of color needs an advanced degree/professional degree.

I feel that's one thing you can't bring yourself to truly deal with, though you know this. But you hide behind codewords like transplants, liberal SJW, etc.

Just go out and say it directly, and deal with that. And fight against it in general, for yourself and for people from your community.

Btw, I think you have excellent ideas on public transportation. But an idiot like Lhota, who before coming the MTA CEO could be hired to do that with no background in public transportation. Could a person of color from the Bronx be as likely to get the same opportunity? No. Freddy Ferrer, who has a MPA, served as acting chairman. Not as the regular appointee.
You seem to have been anal hurt because of my comment. I'm sorry if you feel butt hurt. But I'm sorry to say that high level of classism and undertone racism exists in the liberals sphere of things. If I was a liberal, white, elite educated, or even a person of color I would not want to live amongst poor blacks, poor whites, or those who are uneducated, or even worse, under educated. I'm serious. My comment must have really angered you and your anal whole. Don't be upset about me or poor people that Trump got elected. It's your liberal, elite over the top educated folks that doomed America on a global scale politically by siding with Hillary thus creating a process of alienation amongst voters.

I can never forget your comment when Trump won the election. Trump went to am ivy league school, and so did I. We will be OK.

As for minorities with degrees not getting calls for jobs compared to white guys in prison. Do you know plenty of minorities have minority sounding names? Or live in minority areas? Those points I have mentioned will throw off HR departments. As for me, I have a very waspy first, last and middle name, thanks to my English ancestry. Yes I have been to interviews were HR departments were perplexed about my name. I look more like a Mohammed, than let's say Stewart.

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Old 07-23-2017, 06:54 PM
 
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Neoliberal is a buzzword Berniebros use to describe any liberal who's not a hardcore socialist
I hope you know Bernie Sanders is not a liberal.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:07 PM
 
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Not everything is about race. People self segregate themselves based on multiple criteria (race, education, class, ideology, etc...). From studies and person experience, in order to escape poverty you have to be lucky to have mentors in your life who will help isolate you from the negative parts of the surrounding community and make you focus on academics. Many times people who come from poor background stay poor, because they continue to make bad decisions. I was lucky to get exposure to diverse thinking in public school and with the internet.
I never said everything is about race. However major studies and publications have data which suggest minorities with bachelor degrees with no criminal records do WORSE than white college dropouts and convicts. So if the data is true, that is very much about race.

It's difficult for a lot of people to process that it's possible (and likely) for a minority person from poverty to have made good grades, never gotten in trouble, never even done drugs and still end up doing worse financially than a white high school drop out who has done every drug there is to do.
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:12 PM
 
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I never said everything is about race. However major studies and publications have data which suggest minorities with bachelor degrees with no criminal records do WORSE than white college dropouts and convicts. So if the data is true, that is very much about race.

It's difficult for a lot of people to process that it's possible (and likely) for a minority person from poverty to have made good grades, never gotten in trouble, never even done drugs and still end up doing worse financially than a white high school drop out who has done every drug there is to do.
Why are you changing the subject. Just focus on this woman and her dislike of the music from the ice cream truck. Maybe if that ice cream truck was playing a kumbaya tune, maybe that white woman would have been singing a different tune. As a New Yorker and as an American, I totally agree with NYer23. Nothing wrong with self segregation. and I too, is very and thankful of exposure to other people classes, etc. As of lately, I know some white folks out here in NYC not getting no where. They thought white privilege exist? I told a former co worker of mines, if you want to improve your white image. Go get a college degree, Anglicize your first and last names.

As for segregation. I saw it in Miami Court in Brooklyn. The white transplants had their own thing, and the Caribbean folks of Haitian, Dominican, Guyanese, Jamaican, Trinidadian, Eastern Caribbean, Bajans and a couple of Cubans where all having a good time enjoying everyone culture, music and food. The white transplants, as well as their black faced well to do counterparts mingled with themselves. Nothing wrong with this. But being me, I saw it as wrong and I like folks to intermingle and experience one another. But in the real world, the rainbow does not work. I went over to wish the gentry happy fourth by changing my accent to neutral wasp sounding type. We spoke and had a beer. They did not want to mix with the immigrant locals.

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