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Old 07-31-2017, 09:49 PM
 
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When you saying working people need to get educated to get better jobs that would allow them to buy a house, what you and the system are really saying is that some people's jobs are necessary for society to function, but they don't deserve the right to get paid enough to afford housing.

If your solution was put into practice, everyone would become a stock broker and we would have janitors, food service workers, healthcare workers etc... whose roles in society are crucial to society functioning. Am not sure why you believe these people don't deserve living wages and housing, when they are necessary roles in society

Also this recipe doesn't work. Am here to tell you I went to college, work a career, and cannot afford the astronomically inflated prices of market rate housing purchase on top of my bills.

Housing needs to be public and/or below market rate because working people cannot speculative market rate housing
Those people are homeowners or at least often able to reasonably rent in most of the country.
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Old 07-31-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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This is what the underclass will never get. They look to government to solve all their problems. No one is solving your problems but YOU.
More than that. Housing projects and permanent subsidies defacto dumped marginalized groups literally on the margins of the city in the ****ty neighborhoods, and segregated them from the rest of the city. These days the easiest places to get welfare housing are at the end of the train lines of the outer boroughs (North Bronx, Jamaica-Queens, Far Rockaway-Queens, East New York and Brownsville-Brooklyn). The welfare system kept a good portion Black people segregated away from the rest of society. If you're living in the ****tiest neighborhoods away from everyone else, you won't have the social connections that the rest of society have, and you won't be able to get the same opportunities. So a person who is obsessed with housing subsidies may not realize it, but in spending all of those efforts to try to permanently get the subsidy they are shooting themselves in the foot.

With that said, personally if I lost my job you'd better believe I'd get unemployment. There's nothing wrong with getting help when you need it. It doesn't mean you should let the welfare system take over your life. If there are barriers to your employment (lack of education, discrimination, lack of local opportunity, etc.) one needs to address those matters.

And you don't like it when people bring up racial issues, but welfare as it was constructed in NYC was racist and it was intended to be so. Unlike beneficial programs like the GI Bill (pays for college, free medical, subsidies mortgages, among other veteran benefits), financial aid for college, unemployment for people who lost their jobs, etc, permanent welfare isn't intended to help you get on your feet. Many live in fear of losing their benefits if they make more than a certain amount of money on the books.
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Old 07-31-2017, 11:56 PM
 
Location: New York City
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A new gentrier restaurant in Crown Heights known as Summerhill has thought it would be funny to make light of crime and poverty in Crown Heights and decided to decorate its walls in bullet holes and serve customers Rose wine in 40oz bottles with paper bags. The white owner is clearly playing up racist stereotypes of black people. The communit has come out to protest this wretched gentrification restaurant and force it to shut down

Protesters rip
LOL, stupidity all the way around here - from the clueless restaurant owner to the low class ghetto people



btw, wtf is that in glasses at the bottom
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