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Old 07-27-2017, 11:24 AM
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Oh yeah "the safety of the NYPD" the biggest gang in the world, fourth biggest standing army in the world. Poor NYPD. We pratically live in a totalitarian police state

And sorry if sane people think jay-walkers and fare-beaters shouldn't be spending time in jail.
Stated by someone who clearly has never lived in anything like a totalitarian police state.
Go and speak to some of your old white eastern European/Jewish neighbors who immigrated here from actual totalitarian police states - they will disabuse you of your childish and ignorant hyperbole.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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This is good. The city and government should be focused on ratchets who have a extensive criminal history
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Real estate prices only skyrocketed when people were convinced that supposedly Giuliani and Bloomberg had cleaned up NYC. Keep convincing people that de Blasio has taken the city back to the 80s, and yes prices will come down as NY becomes less popular.

Oh you work in real estate investment/development? Is that how it works?

Prices skyrocket because of supply and demand. And the rent remains high because people are willing to pay it to live here and be close to work. Less popular...when? For many it is a "privilege" to live here. Lots of people come to NYC even if they don't stay permanently. Lots of professionals flock here after college. You also have people who want to stay here and can afford to pay a higher rent. Tons of empty nesters moving back to the city from the suburbs too.

Even if he did take it back to the 80's (that some actually seem to be begging for) the wealthy don't care, they can afford to ignore what goes on in the street and they will just buy up more RE and land and hold it to resell or develop. Have you seen the redevelopment slated for the south Bronx Waterfront (Chetrit Group/ Somerset Partners). Don't get fooled. NYC is in transition but it will never be less popular even if people do leave.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Stated by someone who clearly has never lived in anything like a totalitarian police state.
Go and speak to some of your old white eastern European/Jewish neighbors who immigrated here from actual totalitarian police states - they will disabuse you of your childish and ignorant hyperbole.
Or perhaps he knows Latinos or Asians who have been under oppressive regimes. Eastern Europeans do not have the monopoly on oppressive states.

The Giuliani era is over, get used to it.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Oh you work in real estate investment/development? Is that how it works?

Prices skyrocket because of supply and demand. And the rent remains high because people are willing to pay it to live here and be close to work. Less popular...when? For many it is a "privilege" to live here. Lots of people come to NYC even if they don't stay permanently. Lots of professionals flock here after college. You also have people who want to stay here and can afford to pay a higher rent. Tons of empty nesters moving back to the city from the suburbs too.

Even if he did take it back to the 80's (that some actually seem to be begging for) the wealthy don't care, they can afford to ignore what goes on in the street and they will just buy up more RE and land and hold it to resell or develop. Have you seen the redevelopment slated for the south Bronx Waterfront (Chetrit Group/ Somerset Partners). Don't get fooled. NYC is in transition but it will never be less popular even if people do leave.
The wealthy only move to certain parts of Manhattan for the most part.

They aren't moving to the Bronx, Staten Island, Upper Manhattan, Queens out of LIC, and truthfully aren't moving to most of Brooklyn.

Professionals moving to NYC after college has always happened. And many also leave.

NYC real estate comes and goes in phases and has historically over the 19th and 20th century. No trend lasts forever, and Giuliani/Bloomberg's New York was a mere flip.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:05 PM
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Or perhaps he knows Latinos or Asians who have been under oppressive regimes. Eastern Europeans do not have the monopoly on oppressive states.

The Giuliani era is over, get used to it.
Oh you're right, I'm sorry. Because I didn't make a comprehensive list of every totalitarian regime in the world who has immigrants to NY then my point is invalid. Good catch.


What the heck has liking or not liking Guiliani got to do with this? I'm certainly glad he's gone. I also don't disagree with the idea of cancelling all those old warrants. Childish statements like that poster made, and you apparently agree with, notwithstanding.


The board descends further into the simplistic binary us & them debate... That's what we need to get used to, idiotic binary simplicity and hyperbole. Its omnipresent now.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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The wealthy only move to certain parts of Manhattan for the most part.

They aren't moving to the Bronx, Staten Island, Upper Manhattan, Queens out of LIC, and truthfully aren't moving to most of Brooklyn.

Professionals moving to NYC after college has always happened. And many also leave.

NYC real estate comes and goes in phases and has historically over the 19th and 20th century. No trend lasts forever, and Giuliani/Bloomberg's New York was a mere flip.
They aren't? Oh I didn't realize that because that is not what the market data/projections look like.

Agreed no trend lasts forever, nothing is forever..... and neighborhoods certainly change. That's why I find it strange when people complain that an area that was once working/middle class and nice, then became not so great in the 1960-80's is now starting to turn around and become more like it was before the downturn. Ebb and flow, nothing stays static.

Who said they aren't moving to or buying properties there? Greystone built a new luxury condo development on City Island, it was 75% sold not long after opening (by Q3 last year). What about Riverdale, lots of luxury apartments and million dollar mansions. Brooklyn....how about Greenpoint - nice new luxury condos over by the water. And then we have the old faithful Brooklyn Heights.

I don't think that the real estate market trends are based on the city administration. Certain aspects of it can certainly be effected, yes. Like the 421a tax credits/ developer tax credits/ brownfield programs. Everything is a flip including this current administration as you stated.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Stated by someone who clearly has never lived in anything like a totalitarian police state.
Go and speak to some of your old white eastern European/Jewish neighbors who immigrated here from actual totalitarian police states - they will disabuse you of your childish and ignorant hyperbole.
America is a totalitarian police state. NSA Wiretapping the entire population? Militarized police? Repression of peaceful protestors. American technology has provided the type of police state that 20th century regimes could only DREAM of. You are just blind to the facts.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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And dual use (military) technology paved the way. Sheep are sheep though.
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Old 07-27-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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<>sane people think jay-walkers and fare-beaters shouldn't be spending time in jail.
You need to re-read this, I think? Or is just a fine enough? Public urination? Public pooping? Failure to curb dogs? Littering? Smoking a little dope?
I'm just curious where people in the City want to draw the line between forgetaboutit and jail time?
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