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View Poll Results: Was it correct to FIRE him?
Yes 38 88.37%
No 3 6.98%
Not sure 2 4.65%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-20-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Crooked Cop, weep what you sow.
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Old 08-20-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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Yes he should be fired. I have zero sympathy for people who agree to be put in a position of authority and trust and then intentionally violate that authority and trust. So what if it was 'just $20'. Who knows who, in a real setting, that $20 may have belonged to? Who knows how hard that person may have worked to earn that 'just $20'?

No, let him go find a job where everyday citizens aren't subjected to his greed and corruption.
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Old 08-20-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: NYC-LBI-PHL
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this is true, but how many times has the NYPD gotten away with worse crimes? The guy who shot Ramaly Graham in his own bathroom after chasing him into his home without a warrant (which is illegal and not proper protocol) got off clean. I would be pissed if I was this guy for stealing $20 and he gets sacked. I want to know what his argument is, but I bet it will be, these guys did worse things and are still on the job.
There are bad NYPD who have gotten away with worse but this guy is still a bad apple and needs to go. Maybe this is the start of a cleanup in the department.
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Old 08-20-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Parkchester.
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As a black man I'm sure if I got caught stealing $20, the NYPD would just let me off with a warning and a promise not to do it again.
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:06 PM
 
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I'm a cop. I know.

People who are fired after 20 get to keep their pension, not prior. And that only for non-felonies and non-job related. Think DWI, misdemeanor domestic etc.

Like I said earlier, you are confusing people who are allowed to vest out with those who are outright fired. The commissioner could allow this cop to vest. He would then receive his pension in a few months when his 20th anniversary rolls around. If he is fired, there is no pension at all as he is short of 20 years and being fired for an on duty incident.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think before the departmental trial they offered to let him resign rather than be fired if found guilty?
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:19 PM
 
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The wrong cops always seem to get punished, and the ones who deserve to have the book thrown at them walk.
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: SC
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Seems a little bit extreme to me. What do y'all think?
Lets see firing a Law Enforcement Office for being a thief - too extreme? Let me think about that...

No. it's not.

Should LEOs be saints no, but as close as possible would be nice. If someone will steal $20. because he has the "opportunity," there is no telling what else he might do - given that same opportunity. That is not what a LEO agency should aspire to.
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Almost 20 years on the force. Are we to assume this is the first time he stole money? No way. Maybe he was suspected and that's why they ran a sting on him. A cop who thinks nothing of stealing money from suspects probably is dishonest in other aspects of his job.
Well said. Where exactly is the argument here? This is a corrupt cop. The amount of money and his length of service are besides the point. It's the principle. He stole and that makes him not only dishonest but a thief. Law enforcement has no place for people like him (although I'm sure there are many like him however that's why the city created the Internal Affairs Department).
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Thanks for the clarification. Do you think before the departmental trial they offered to let him resign rather than be fired if found guilty?
Stealing, even off duty, almost always results in firing. DWI is more forgiveable. Theft shows a complete lack of integrity and trust.
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Old 08-20-2017, 04:05 PM
 
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Of course people in jobs should be fired for stealing while on the job. How is this even in dispute?
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