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Old 08-26-2017, 09:01 AM
 
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Considering the home prices in Greenwich village, I assume the neighborhood consists mostly of wealthy folks? But the crime rate is pretty high.

Are the criminals mostly coming from other areas of NYC, or are they locals?
Any ideas?
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Considering the home prices in Greenwich village, I assume the neighborhood consists mostly of wealthy folks? But the crime rate is pretty high.

Are the criminals mostly coming from other areas of NYC, or are they locals?
Any ideas?
Greenwich Village is not a private community despite it's wealth so it's not like people can't travel to it from other places. Have never known it to be a high-crime area?
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:08 AM
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High crime? News to me.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:17 AM
 
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These articles are a couple years old:

Greenwich Village Crime Rate Among Highest in City, Report Says

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...ty-report-says

Violent crime spiking in wealthy Manhattan neighborhoods | New York Post

I was looking at a crime map on a real estate website, and there was a concentrated area of crime right in the middle of Greenwich village.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:19 AM
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These articles are a couple years old:

Greenwich Village Crime Rate Among Highest in City, Report Says

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...ty-report-says

Violent crime spiking in wealthy Manhattan neighborhoods | New York Post

I was looking at a crime map on a real estate website, and there was a concentrated area of crime right in the middle of Greenwich village.
Lol, citing articles from 2011 and 2013. When is the last time you step foot in Greenwich Village let alone NYC?
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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When's the last time you guys have been in the West 4th Street area at night time? You'd be surprised. It's actually one of the few areas in Manhattan I do not like being in at night time. It seriously feels dangerous over there. When I was in college in the early 2000s, I don't remember it feeling that bad in the area though. I personally started noticing the change in the area around maybe 2010 or so. If I have to be in that area at night, my guard is up extra - and I can't quite explain it, but around there just does not feel safe at all to me.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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When's the last time you guys have been in the West 4th Street area at night time? You'd be surprised. It's actually one of the few areas in Manhattan I do not like being in at night time. It seriously feels dangerous over there. When I was in college in the early 2000s, I don't remember it feeling that bad in the area though. I personally started noticing the change in the area around maybe 2010 or so. If I have to be in that area at night, my guard is up extra - and I can't quite explain it, but around there just does not feel safe at all to me.
Was hanging down there when the Village was the either gays or metalheads. I was the latter. The area you talk about has always felt seedy, but I never felt unsafe. Unfortunately the place has lost some of its character, as several bars and music shops closed over the years. Maybe you feel intimidated by the basketball types over there? Am sure there is drug dealing too in some capacity, but still never feel uneasy there. In fact, used to frequent a bar right around the corner from West 4th just off of Broadway, that has since closed.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:41 AM
 
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Was hanging down there when the Village was the either gays or metalheads. I was the latter. The area you talk about has always felt seedy, but I never felt unsafe. Unfortunately the place has lost some of its character, as several bars and music shops closed over the years. Maybe you feel intimidated by the basketball types over there? Am sure there is drug dealing too in some capacity, but still never feel uneasy there. In fact, used to frequent a bar right around the corner from West 4th just off of Broadway, that has since closed.
Nahh not even! I used to hang out at the Cage all the time back in the day! Every New Yorker who's into basketball has stopped and hung out at that court, even if only for a few minutes! I'm telling you, back in the day, I actually loved hanging out on W4 and W8 Streets as a teen, and even in my early 20s when I started going to bars, but to me the atmosphere started changing. That McDonalds, forget about it, and I just feel like that's just more seedy types standing on 6th Ave in general.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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Nahh not even! I used to hang out at the Cage all the time back in the day! Every New Yorker who's into basketball has stopped and hung out at that court, even if only for a few minutes! I'm telling you, back in the day, I actually loved hanging out on W4 and W8 Streets as a teen, and even in my early 20s when I started going to bars, but to me the atmosphere started changing. That McDonalds, forget about it, and I just feel like that's just more seedy types standing on 6th Ave in general.
Thing is there are also a lot of vacancies in the area now as businesses shutter down due to high rents. Will agree that there's a different vibe now than before, but am thinking that's a big part of it. Now, can walk around most of Manhattan, and any time there's a vacant store, can see beggars set up shop in front of whatever store used to exist and live there day and night. Neighborhood lost its soul once Gray's Papaya closed. Friends would eat at the place as teens when getting heavy metal CD's then jump on the subway to go home. If anything the area is a mix of yuppies and bums.
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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Nahh not even! I used to hang out at the Cage all the time back in the day! Every New Yorker who's into basketball has stopped and hung out at that court, even if only for a few minutes! I'm telling you, back in the day, I actually loved hanging out on W4 and W8 Streets as a teen, and even in my early 20s when I started going to bars, but to me the atmosphere started changing. That McDonalds, forget about it, and I just feel like that's just more seedy types standing on 6th Ave in general.
More dangerous than Harlem, Brownsville, East New York, East Harlem, South Bronx, East Flatbush/Bushwick/Bedford
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