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Old 09-05-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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china has some incredible cnc state of the art factories . they can produce goods that are best of breed so the term chinese junk applies to exactly that and applies to that low end crap catagory

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Old 09-05-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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china has some incredible cnc state of the art factories . they can produce goods that are best of breed so the term chinese junk applies exactly that and applies to that low end crap catagory
Am sure they can. *Sarcasm* They've built their economy up by *copying* others.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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Its funny you say that, because I was a diehard Blackberry fan! I had 6 Blackberries, even the Nextel one with the full keyboard. Blackberry simply couldnt keep up with the times and they didnt have nowhere near the amount of apps as Apple and Android. I probably would have still been with Blackberry if they were able to keep up.
Apple dodges their patriotic responsibility in terms of taxes. They make great products, but I call them American made in name only.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 12:39 PM
 
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i call them smart .

the american tax system is based on your fair share of taxes is the lowest amount you can figure out you have to pay using the laws and tools given to you .
 
Old 09-05-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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i call them smart .

the american tax system is based on your fair share of taxes is the lowest amount you can figure out you have to pay using the laws and tools given to you .
Would like to see Trump re-focus his attention them again and you know why.

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Apple dodges their patriotic responsibility in terms of taxes. They make great products, but I call them American made in name only.
They're a disgrace, and what's worse is they make those phones and most other things for peanuts, and American consumers are so dumb that they pay for sub-par quality.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 01:46 PM
 
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I want to see what is best for us -the consumer . it is after all why i worked and i want the best darn value for my hard earned dollars . most of us want the best products at the lowest cost . if someone can do it all better than apple more power to em .
 
Old 09-05-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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Before you had massive outsourcing of American jobs, the American consumer was quite happy to be getting those cheap prices because they still had their cushy jobs and didn't give a damn about sweatshop labor or where the products came from. The thinking was that the high paying jobs would *never* go overseas, and we could just re-train those people to do something else. Well then the recession came along and *anything* was on the table, and we've seen *massive* manufacturing jobs go overseas that has hurt wages overall and decimated entire U.S. cities.
Do you have data to support that. I'm not sure if that is it. I also don't believe people will pay 3-4x more money for said good, especially if they are not making 3-4x more money. In the past, I don't recall c-level jobs paying more than 300% more than the average employee which is the case today. Those salaries, if distributed to those who actually do the work, would give consumers a LOT more buying power. They might actually be willing to pay 2x and maybe 3x, if they had it. (But unlikely 4x) The problem is, productivity went up, but salaries did not... except on the c-level.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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i call them smart .

the american tax system is based on your fair share of taxes is the lowest amount you can figure out you have to pay using the laws and tools given to you .
What is fair? Flat percent? Progressive tax? Tax based on impact those taxes will have. Oh.. and corporations aren't humans.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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I want to see what is best for us -the consumer.

What is best for the consumer is not what the MAGA platform is about.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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which is why i don't get in to this political crap
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