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Old 11-09-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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Blasios envious of the homeless situation in San Francisco and is looking to outdo them
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn NY
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It is NOT the city's civic duty to house anybody and everyone. Again, the welfare state is out of control. If You go to de blasio's Facebook page, every other post is criticizing trump's agenda. I think a centrist democrat would even take issue to the constant criticism. He isn't in the position to bash trump as a mayor. He's just preaching to the choir! I really loathe trump but de blasio is just too much of a leftist.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:18 PM
 
Location: LES & Brooklyn
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It is NOT the city's civic duty to house anybody and everyone. Again, the welfare state is out of control. If You go to de blasio's Facebook page, every other post is criticizing trump's agenda. I think a centrist democrat would even take issue to the constant criticism. He isn't in the position to bash trump as a mayor. He's just preaching to the choir! I really loathe trump but de blasio is just too much of a leftist.
Unfortunately it actually is! Unless legislation or laws change, "New York City has a right to shelter, established by litigation brought by the Legal Aid Society and the Coalition for the Homeless. This law compels the city to provide shelter to New Yorkers who are homeless by “reason of physical, mental or social dysfunction.”

You can read on The Callahan Legacy: Callahan v. Carey and the Legal Right to Shelter and learn more about how this came about.

I wish the city would do a real poll to show the percentage of these homeless people are not even New Yorkers. Bet laws would change then!
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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Like those two drug-addled scrubs from Michigan who moved here with their two children EXPLICITLY to get free housing and then both their babies died in a horrible radiator accident. There was a huge article about them with quotes from their parents saying they would have let them in their homes they didn't NEED to come to nyc but that they KNEW they could work the system, and they clearly did and paid dearly for it. I wouldn't be shocked if they are currently in litigation to sue the city for 20 million dollars for allowing their babies to die :/
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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When did the right to shelter law come into effect? My biological mother who died in 2006 at 47 years old was living in the bronx for quite some time and then became homeless and never found shelter. I only recently found out where they buried her, in a potter's grave on Long Island! Not sure if it was a potter's grave since it was a real cemetary, but no one paid for her burial or plot. I guess the city did? I didn't find out she died until 2009 as she was estranged from everyone in our family, but now my entire family is dead as well and something tells me when it's my turn to become homeless (i can feel it in my bones...) this law is going to get redacted :/ Life's funny that way.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:33 PM
 
Location: LES & Brooklyn
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When did the right to shelter law come into effect? My biological mother who died in 2006 at 47 years old was living in the bronx for quite some time and then became homeless and never found shelter. I only recently found out where they buried her, in a potter's grave on Long Island! Not sure if it was a potter's grave since it was a real cemetary, but no one paid for her burial or plot. I guess the city did? I didn't find out she died until 2009 as she was estranged from everyone in our family, but now my entire family is dead as well and something tells me when it's my turn to become homeless (i can feel it in my bones...) this law is going to get redacted :/ Life's funny that way.

It went into effect in 1989 http://www.coalitionforthehomeless.o...sentDecree.pdf

You won't be homeless, unless by choice. You know the system well enough to make it through!
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn NY
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I doubt the city would fish out to a lawsuit from another state. It was the junkie's fault and it is sickening that the kids died but that's the way it goes
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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You won't be homeless, unless by choice. You know the system well enough to make it through!


Ha. I guess there's that I doubt i'd last one night in a shelter to be honest. Or i'd suddenly make a ton of BFF's, I could see it going either way, but I wish it not upon myself or anyone else. It's just the older one gets and the fewer social connections one has, especially if they are single and childless, the scarier it gets, at least here in nyc. maybe it's different elsewhere?
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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It went into effect in 1989 http://www.coalitionforthehomeless.o...sentDecree.pdf

Wow, didn't realize it was that far back. My mother was in methadone programs from as far back as I can remember as a kid. Hells she used to take me on the bus into port authority to score drugs, but she was also in methadone programs and i don't know if it was jersey or in manhattan, but she would take me and dump me on the street and go score in what i believe to be hells kitchen (oddly some of my favorite memories as a kid was playing in open fire hydrants).
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:11 PM
 
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Like those two drug-addled scrubs from Michigan who moved here with their two children EXPLICITLY to get free housing and then both their babies died in a horrible radiator accident. There was a huge article about them with quotes from their parents saying they would have let them in their homes they didn't NEED to come to nyc but that they KNEW they could work the system,
This part of the story made a big impression on me as well! I suspect there are lots more just like them, swarming in from everywhere, expecting to be housed for free.
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