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Work in the right place and a bartender can easily make that.
My friend works PT at a sheety Irish bar and makes 60k+ so imagine what those who work full time at a nice place makes.
$60k? What's the hourly wage and how much is made in tips under the table?
I'm betting the wage is tip minimum, and he's getting essentially everything in cash.
Now the IRS has figured this out, so he's going to have to declare some of it (or, more specifically, the bar owner is going to have to assign some number for his tips, and withhold it.)
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$60k? What's the hourly wage and how much is made in tips under the table?
Work in the right place and a bartender can easily make that.
My friend works PT at a sheety Irish bar and makes 60k+ so imagine what those who work full time at a nice place makes.
Yeah, I was gonna say. If you work at a busy bar, it seems possible. Let's say you sell 60 drinks an hour and get tipped 1 dollar per average for drink, that seems reasonably possible for a nightclub.
If that were the case, it would have happened already.
Well, the technology wasn't there at the time...and then the costs didn't come down fast enough.
It's becoming more and more the opposite now: the technology's constantly improving and the costs are dramatically falling....
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Getting back to the local issue. Obviously at $9-ish/hour (which is what I think is the least NYC businesses have to pay to actually get someone to work for them), labor is still cheaper than automation. Is that still the case at $13-15? We're about to find out.
Yes because automation involves huge upfront costs (though they're falling all the time) and, given constantly improving technology, there's a sense of buying into planned obsolescence, as it were....
I predict that by 2030 we'll see automated fast food for sure in NYC.
no comment on the vid? hmmmm I'll admit I don't eat fast food really and the McDonalds & wendy's automated ordering kiosk is pretty cool. I ordered coffee there
we stopped at mcdonalds the other day . they had one counter person and all ordering was via kiosk . no problem paying 15 an hour when you ditch most of your counter people .
Am thinking you missed the boat. Minimum wage *will be* $15.00 just about everywhere in the NY region soon enough. Cannot just slam businesses with that. Have to slowly phase it in so that businesses can survive and adjust otherwise those looking for a raise will be on the unemployment line with nothing.
Have said it time and again, retail was not created to feed a family. Cannot fathom how so many expect such high wages for simple work. That means that those in managerial positions must earn substantially more.
In 1997 the minimum wage was $5.15. In 2007, it was $5.85. How much did your COL increase between 1997 and 2007? Surely it went up by more than $97* a month in 10 years. So if it is drastic, consider it DEFERRED raises.
Calculated the difference in wage and multiplied it by 35 hours a week and came up with the monthly figure of $97.
Of course I don't live off that! I'm only 22 and hope to get a better job in the next few years.
But that is still a big difference, If I still made 7.25 it would almost feel pointless to work. Even as a 16 year old it felt like too little, now it would really be not enough.
I would agree with that too. Back in college the economy tanked and my usual summer job was not available. I attempted to work retail at minimum. Even as a college student, it wasn't worth my time. I already had years of office experience and the tasks were menial and physically tiring. It seems the less you make, the harder you work. I didn't stay long. I used that summer more effectively and prepared my senior thesis instead.
In 1997 the minimum wage was $5.15. In 2007, it was $5.85. How much did your COL increase between 1997 and 2007? Surely it went up by more than $97* a month in 10 years. So if it is drastic, consider it DEFERRED raises.
Calculated the difference in wage and multiplied it by 35 hours a week and came up with the monthly figure of $97.
Facts. The businesses can't survive line is a scare tactic. They can and do, because every year they report an ever growing profit.
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