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Doctors in other boroughs don't overprescribe as well?
Other boroughs definitely have an opioid problem as well but per capita, SI's is much higher. Also, poorer people have always had higher rates of drug addiction so opioid addiction in the Bronx isn't surprising at all. The South Bronx is the poorest district in the country after all.
Brooklyn, Queens, and Manhattan do not have the same problem as SI. Why?
I find that hard to believe, there are many parts of the country that seem like they would be even more impoverished (Appalachia, Mississippi Delta, North Philly, etc.)
I find that hard to believe, there are many parts of the country that seem like they would be even more impoverished (Appalachia, Mississippi Delta, North Philly, etc.)
What's the population in those districts? 2,000 people? Let's say the South Bronx is one of the poorest congressional districts in the nation with a population over 50K? Is that better?
Sorry to tell you but, the New Jersey Shore has taken the name away. Have you seen the Governor of New Jersey all over New York's Channel one, asking people in his state to get help? As far as S.I. is concerned:
Too much money, and too many doctors that prescribe pain killers easily.....Opiods have wiped most of the US, see what is doing to many, many other cities.....
The doctors prescribing too many opioids argument never made sense to me. It's like blaming McDonalds for selling too many hamburgers or Coca Cola for selling too much soda. Can we blame the carmakers for manufacturing cars with too much horsepower and thus contributing to more motor vehicle accidents?
What's the population in those districts? 2,000 people? Let's say the South Bronx is one of the poorest congressional districts in the nation with a population over 50K? Is that better?
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The South Bronx had 256,544, or 38%, of its residents living below the poverty line, the new county-by-county Census stats show. The figures are worse for children, with 49% living in poverty.
I don't think the South Bronx is poorest in absolute terms, there just a big concentration of people living on government support and cash based economy.
Serious question. Why SI? It's the borough with the highest median household incomes. It's a bastion of Republicans who are all about family values and law and order. It has the highest concentration of those who enforce the law for a living.
I have my theories but I want to hear others. I'm sure there are angles I haven't/will never think about.
Do some homework pal, because SI isn't the "center" of opioid epidemic in NYC.
First you do realize Staten Island is close to New Jersey right? Well a good number of those found dead on SI from ODs were from NJ. Maybe their source was on SI and they couldn't wait to drive back home and shoot up, or whatever.
One main problem for SI is not just the bad doctors who prescribe opioids for money; but the fact three bridges make access to NJ and thus the rest of USA rather easy. Drugs move up the east coast into NJ and onto SI. For the record there are towns all over NJ but especially up and down route 1/9 that are having same problems.
Two, for a long time many on the South Shore and Mid-Island were busy pointing the finger at the North Shore, because that is where all bad things happen on SI. Wrong! It was when kids, mothers, fathers and whatever from "nice" and respectable South Shore families started dying of ODs that things began to change.
A well respected doctor, hero of 9/11/01 and so forth was found dead in SI University Hospital. Turns out Dr. Donald Baldovin was using fentanyl . At the time there were wails, screams and moans that it *couldn't be true...*, the guy was a hero of 9/11, family guy, one of "US" and so forth.
There is a culture on SI, and maybe it comes from the heavy Italian influence that you hide your shame, not display it to the world. If there is a disgrace in the family you close ranks and keep it there; so if someone dies of an overdose, is getting arrested for drug related crimes or whatever, you try to scrub that record clean and do what can be done to hide the shame.
We also have on SI another strong culture (that again may come from the Italians) that you mind your business. If your next door neighbor's kid that is BF with yours and you've known since he was a baby starts looking and acting "funny", is it your place to interfere? Depending upon your relationship with the family you *might* say something, or you may not because it could all blow up in your face.
Much of the reluctance of friends and family members to accept what was going on in their own house and or whatever was fear of arrest. SI LE and local politicians finally realized that locking people up who come forward and or are arrested for a first drug offense isn't the right way to go. Now things are slightly turning towards the better.
The doctors prescribing too many opioids argument never made sense to me. It's like blaming McDonalds for selling too many hamburgers or Coca Cola for selling too much soda. Can we blame the carmakers for manufacturing cars with too much horsepower and thus contributing to more motor vehicle accidents?
Do opioid junkies take the drugs under duress?
Maybe the docs share 20% of the blame for some of the opiod use. But the majority of opiod purchase and use has nothing to do with 20 pills being prescribed to one person in each house hold by a doc. If this was truly the case the pharmacy lines would be long as hell constantly re-upping supplies or pulling up to the back to collect boxes of pills.
Illegal pills are being imported by the millions monthly into the united states. It is easier to blame the one rogue doctor or one person selling loosies on the corner than hold the upper class drug and controlled substance dealer and illegal cigarette distributer who are truly responsible for ruining neighborhoods and causing such destruction among families.
Law enforcement and the families are not serious about confronting and eliminating the true source of these opiods.
They would rather administer narcan and allocate 5 officers to apprehend a low level dealer on the corner than the importers in great neck, whitestone, Forrest hills, Manhattan etc. Until then, drugs (illegal cigarettes) and other vices will pour into neighborhoods and keep residents who lack will power addicted. The local fentanyl dealer is 95% likely to have a chinese supplier at the top who lives in an upper class neighborhood who is importing this deadly opiod. Why are we not aggressively going after them and making an example with heavy sentencing is a question for another day.
Plus alot of kids are being introduced to harder drugs when they take other drugs. It is mixed in unbeknownst to them and the hardcore addiction starts there.
First you do realize Staten Island is close to New Jersey right? Well a good number of those found dead on SI from ODs were from NJ. Maybe their source was on SI and they couldn't wait to drive back home and shoot up, or whatever.
One main problem for SI is not just the bad doctors who prescribe opioids for money; but the fact three bridges make access to NJ and thus the rest of USA rather easy. Drugs move up the east coast into NJ and onto SI. For the record there are towns all over NJ but especially up and down route 1/9 that are having same problems.
Two, for a long time many on the South Shore and Mid-Island were busy pointing the finger at the North Shore, because that is where all bad things happen on SI. Wrong! It was when kids, mothers, fathers and whatever from "nice" and respectable South Shore families started dying of ODs that things began to change.
A well respected doctor, hero of 9/11/01 and so forth was found dead in SI University Hospital. Turns out Dr. Donald Baldovin was using fentanyl . At the time there were wails, screams and moans that it *couldn't be true...*, the guy was a hero of 9/11, family guy, one of "US" and so forth.
There is a culture on SI, and maybe it comes from the heavy Italian influence that you hide your shame, not display it to the world. If there is a disgrace in the family you close ranks and keep it there; so if someone dies of an overdose, is getting arrested for drug related crimes or whatever, you try to scrub that record clean and do what can be done to hide the shame.
We also have on SI another strong culture (that again may come from the Italians) that you mind your business. If your next door neighbor's kid that is BF with yours and you've known since he was a baby starts looking and acting "funny", is it your place to interfere? Depending upon your relationship with the family you *might* say something, or you may not because it could all blow up in your face.
Much of the reluctance of friends and family members to accept what was going on in their own house and or whatever was fear of arrest. SI LE and local politicians finally realized that locking people up who come forward and or are arrested for a first drug offense isn't the right way to go. Now things are slightly turning towards the better.
Once again, per capita SI has the highest rate of OD's in NYC. Furthermore, pointing to the South BX makes no sense because it has always had drug problems. Poor areas have drug problems. What's new? SI isn't poor and it hasn't historically had problems with drugs.
So you're blaming NJ for SI's drug problem? It's not very convincing. Why didn't SI have a crack or heroin problem before prescription opioids if, ostensibly, drugs were always moving through NJ and into NYC?
My question still stands. Why are middle class/upper middle class families in SI experiencing this problem while it's not as much of an issue in BK, Queens, the city, or the BX? Drugs have always been a problem in poor communities so don't point to the south BX.
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