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Old 03-19-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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I guess the difference between myself and SJWs is that I see the Irish PM marching in the St. Patrick's Day parade and think,

"Hey, that is cool that a foreign head of state came to NY to march in solidarity with Irish Americans."

As opposed to,

"OMG, he's a gay half-Hindu!!!! Taste salt, racist homophobes!!!"


tl;dr Who cares if he is gay. Who cares if his father is Indian. He's the PM of Ireland marching in an Irish ethnic celebration in NY. I doubt marched to make a statement about his sexual preferences or his genes.
It wasn't that long ago one could be fired for being gay. Bigots have always cared whether someone is gay, and even when people don't want to tell their sexuality people will figure it out (it's kind of obvious when someone has no interest in the opposite sex).

So gay people are happy to see that's it's possible to be openly gay and have successful careers. Not too long ago in NYC, to be openly gay was to be working at rock bottom service sector or retail jobs...........Oh and fue employment discrimination and rejection from their families the homeless have always been disproportionately gay.

So there are lots of reasons to celebrate his participation on the basis of being gay.

Given the obviously racial history of the world, it's pretty obvious why people are happy when people like Obama or this guy ride to the top......
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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I think a lot of gay folks are just self serving and disrespectful for families. As parents of young children we haven't even begun the sexual education or discuss exactly how the bees and the birds work. Yet you got people trying to make a political sexual orientation message to the public. Wait till they have kids and have to explain what does Joe and Jake does behind the bedroom door. I don't think a public venue such as family parades should be used to show any sexual orientation message. Especially how some gays dress and act in public at these parades. It's not even about their sexual orientation, it's about decency and family values. I don't want to see provocatively dressed men or women with my kids around.
That's your failure as a parent. You're supposed to talk to your children about what they will be doing, and they will likely be doing this stuff before they are legally adults.

Obviously the conversations you have with a 4 year old won't be the same as the conversations you have with a 12 year old.

But no one is having sex out in the streets either. If it's s small child all they need to know is love comes in all forms and to treat others they way you would like to be treated.
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Old 03-19-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Remember those days when foot fetishists were arrested for having sex? Or couldn't marry each other? Or were imprisoned in mental health facilities? No? Me neither.

This is hardly a reasonable comparison.
Of your list the only thing I remember is when marriage was between a man and a woman, as it had been the definition of marriage for thousands of years because the marriage of a man and woman was integral to the raising of children. Yes I know some married men and woman don't have children but most do. A gay couple cannot produce children without the involvement of other persons as surrogates or adopting someone else's children.

I don't remember any gays being arrested for private consensual sex. I'm sure it happened somewhere in the past but likewise I am sure straight couples also were arrested for adultery. I don't remember any gays being imprisoned in mental facilities solely by virtue of their sexual orientation and unrelated to another crime.
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Old 03-19-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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I've gotten a lot of reps for my statement so I'm not alone. I don't care if you're gay or straight just keep your sexual orientation out of the family parade. Already difficult to explain to kids how bees produce honey and now you want to explain to them why a male bee and a male bee wants to make a colony.
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Old 03-19-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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I've gotten a lot of reps for my statement so I'm not alone. I don't care if you're gay or straight just keep your sexual orientation out of the family parade. Already difficult to explain to kids how bees produce honey and now you want to explain to them why a male bee and a male bee wants to make a colony.
You don't own the parade and LGBT groups are there so either get over it or don't go. And no one is really interés in your children or your lack of parenting skills. It's your job as a parent to explain things to your children in a responsible way. If you can't handle such a basic, simple conversation with children you never should have had any.
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Old 03-19-2018, 03:55 PM
 
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Of your list the only thing I remember is when marriage was between a man and a woman, as it had been the definition of marriage for thousands of years because the marriage of a man and woman was integral to the raising of children. Yes I know some married men and woman don't have children but most do. A gay couple cannot produce children without the involvement of other persons as surrogates or adopting someone else's children.

I don't remember any gays being arrested for private consensual sex. I'm sure it happened somewhere in the past but likewise I am sure straight couples also were arrested for adultery. I don't remember any gays being imprisoned in mental facilities solely by virtue of their sexual orientation and unrelated to another crime.
You displayed ignorance beyond belief. Just because you personally didn't know something happened does not mean it did not happen. The world does not revolve around your beliefs as s young man. There were time periods in which gays were burned st the stake for being gay. There are issues with people being assaulted for being gay. Job discrimination was a major issue. Therapies such as electroshock were used and yes being gay was classified as mental illness so one could be incarcerated or institutionalized because one was gay.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:07 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I've gotten a lot of reps for my statement so I'm not alone. I don't care if you're gay or straight just keep your sexual orientation out of the family parade. Already difficult to explain to kids how bees produce honey and now you want to explain to them why a male bee and a male bee wants to make a colony.
We’ce talked a little on the topic already because of some things my children have withessed. I explained that ANYONE doing ANYTHING with the goal of creating attention is a fool and they should stay away from those types of people if they want to have a drama-free life.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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We’ce talked a little on the topic already because of some things my children have withessed. I explained that ANYONE doing ANYTHING with the goal of creating attention is a fool and they should stay away from those types of people if they want to have a drama-free life.
At least you don’t shy away from your parental responsibilities of talking to your children.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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Pretty gutsy to March with corrupt Cuomo.
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Old 03-19-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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At least you don’t shy away from your parental responsibilities of talking to your children.
The worst thing too many parents do nowadays is shield their children from the real world. Love it or leave it, reality will bite them in the butt eventually.
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