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Guns don't kill, People do.
If you take away people's guns, they will just find other ways to do violent crimes.
If someone wants to hurt or kill people, clearly they have issues and they will do what they have to do, to do it.
I don't know why people don't seem to understand this.
Because NY actually has strict gun laws unlike the rest of hillbilly America.
This happened in NYC, not elsewhere in America. They love illegal handguns in Brooklyn. They can't get enough of them. They'll even sing songs about them.
Actually you rarely hear of gun violence among hillbillies. It is pretty much always flatlanders. Why do flatlanders love shooting each other so much? Hillbillies have more guns, yet shoot each other less.
Australia and England have gun crime rates commiserate with their population size, very similar to ours when controlled for that data point.
False. Australia firearm-related death rate is 10 times lower than the US when adjusted for population size, United Kingdom is 40 times lower when adjusted for population size.
Guns are not as easy to make as drugs, not many people can make an AK 47 in their house from raw materials.
False. Australia firearm-related death rate is 10 times lower than the US when adjusted for population size, United Kingdom is 40 times lower when adjusted for population size.
Guns are not as easy to make as drugs, not many people can make an AK 47 in their house from raw materials.
Unlike many who post here would ever do, I just read a few articles on the topic and found my claim was definitely incorrect. The UK experiences roughly 1 firearm homicide per million persons while we hover around 31. Australia is even lower at .25 per million. Not that either finding makes me willing to give up my guns, but a fact is a fact.
I believe my claim came from a study which removed gang-related murders from the US homicide rate. I’m going to look for that now.
Your second point is simply ridiculous. You're talking about unrelated crimes. Gun control isn't aimed at stopping arsonist and other criminals. It's like saying rape laws are inneffective because they won't do anything for grand larcany.
So murder is not murder. A master logician you are not.
Obviously gun control is not aimed at stopping arson or stabbings. It is about taking guns from the general public. It is about social control.
Consider that most of the direction of gun control advocacy right now centers around laws prohibiting or limiting "assault rifles".
Murders by weapon type 2016:
Rifles (of all kinds): 374
Hand, feet, fists: 656
Knives: 1604
Handguns: 7105
Surely, these statistics must lead one to believe that the impetus for banning certain kinds of rifles is not even closely correlated with the threat posed to society.
So murder is not murder. A master logician you are not.
Obviously gun control is not aimed at stopping arson or stabbings. It is about taking guns from the general public. It is about social control.
Consider that most of the direction of gun control advocacy right now centers around laws prohibiting or limiting "assault rifles".
Murders by weapon type 2016:
Rifles (of all kinds): 374
Hand, feet, fists: 656
Knives: 1604
Handguns: 7105
Surely, these statistics must lead one to believe that the impetus for banning certain kinds of rifles is not even closely correlated with the threat posed to society.
Your logic in your previous post still makes no sense. What is the point in linking guns to arson, stabbings and vehicular homicide?
The direction of gun control advocacy is focused on assault rifles because that’s lowest hanging fruit, meaning the easiest thing to go after. However, overall gun advocacy is focused on enforcing and expanding background checks for ALL weapons, including hand guns.
Guns singular purpose is to kill efficiently and quickly. Knives and vehicles on the other hand, while capable of being used for murder, serve a different primary purpose in society, and thus are regulated differently. The majority on the left aren’t calling for a ban on guns (just the ones capable of mass destruction,) we’re calling for the implementation and strict enforcement of gun laws. We don’t allow people without a license and insurance to purchase a vehicle, yet any 19 yr old with zero gun experience can purchase an AR-15 in certain states.
Come try to get them and you’ll see how easy they are to take...
And you aren’t calling for strict adherence to gun laws, you want new ones that criminalize law abiding citizens.
If you wanted strict adherence to current laws, you’d find that every act a criminal makes from purchase through violent usage is already covered by numerous laws which are routinely ignored by prosecuting authorities.
Come try to get them and you’ll see how easy they are to take...
And you aren’t calling for strict adherence to gun laws, you want new ones that criminalize law abiding citizens.
If you wanted strict adherence to current laws, you’d find that every act a criminal makes from purchase through violent usage is already covered by numerous laws which are routinely ignored by prosecuting authorities.
Did you not read the part in my post about “strictly enforcing” gun laws? That would include putting pressure on the military to update the FBI’s registry of people who have been dishonorably discharged and banned from purchasing weapons.
However, while some states already have strict gun control regulations, most do not. It is those states that need to implement new laws, or we need to pass new laws on a federal level. As NYPD, surely you must be aware that 3in4 guns used in crimes in NY originate from out of state. So no matter what NY does to enforce its strict gun laws, as long as states like Indiana and Florida sell guns to anyone with a pulse, NY is limited as to what it can do alone.
I blame the criminals, not the law abiding citizens of other states that have nothing to do with NYC's crime rate. They don't need to change anything. They have a different way of life (thankfully, because I need a place to move when I retire).
We need to punish our violent perps much stronger so that they cannot become recidivists.
While it is wonderful that you see that the military eff'd up in that case, there are other laws on the books that are NEVER charged. The most glaring example being the federal prohibition against felons possessing firearms. When nearly every gun crime is committed by convicted felons in the cities, why is the Fed not prosecuting this every single time so that perps can face federal prison with no parole?
Oh, wait I know, because my rights have to suffer first. Being an NRA member, it's all my fault anyway.
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