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View Poll Results: Easy question
Parkchester 3 18.75%
Parkchester 1 6.25%
Parkchester 3 18.75%
Billionaires row, nah I’m just kidding. Parkchester baby! All day everyday! 9 56.25%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-08-2018, 01:54 PM
 
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I personally am not hoping for gentrification of Parkchester (if by that is meant the increase in the price of properties or rents), but that more good quality people (yes, that generally means better educated people) of limited means will find Parkchester on the map. More minority scholars/professionals would be EXTREMELY welcome!
That's still gentrification and rents would still rise because of a higher income bracket.
Parkchester gentrification will happen at some point, as the South Bronx gentrification picks up speed.

I just meant that posting about this on City Data isn't going to influence the process.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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That's still gentrification and rents would still rise because of a higher income bracket.
Parkchester gentrification will happen at some point, as the South Bronx gentrification picks up speed.

I just meant that posting about this on City Data isn't going to influence the process.
Well, I got a couple of inquiries. Again, very young, very educated people are in the same income bracket as working- class people. People in humanities (say, librarians) stay in this low income bracket typically for life. If you have an enclave of such people, prices do not go up (I know, I have seen it in other places. Northern reaches of the Upper West Side used to be that way for a very long time).
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Old 04-08-2018, 04:31 PM
 
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Parkchester elementary school scores 3 out of 10 according to GreatSchools. Gentrification is going to be a looooong time coming with those kids of stats.
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Old 04-08-2018, 05:14 PM
 
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Well, I got a couple of inquiries. Again, very young, very educated people are in the same income bracket as working- class people. People in humanities (say, librarians) stay in this low income bracket typically for life. If you have an enclave of such people, prices do not go up (I know, I have seen it in other places. Northern reaches of the Upper West Side used to be that way for a very long time).
For a very long time until it gentrified along with the rest of Manhattan.

Also uneducated working people like barbers and tailors and retail workers fit into that low for life income bracket. Can you picture yourself rubbing elbows with the butcher and the baker? There's a conflict in your thought process there.
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Old 04-08-2018, 05:16 PM
 
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Parkchester elementary school scores 3 out of 10 according to GreatSchools. Gentrification is going to be a looooong time coming with those kids of stats.
Not everybody has kids. There are people who do not have them yet, people whose kids have grown up/left home, and people who just do not care much for kids at all.
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Old 04-08-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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For a very long time until it gentrified along with the rest of Manhattan.

Also uneducated working people like barbers and tailors and retail workers fit into that low for life income bracket. Can you picture yourself rubbing elbows with the butcher and the baker? There's a conflict in your thought process there.
There is no conflict. I can totally rub my elbows with the butcher and the baker - but not with a criminal and with Section 8. The latter two are the only ones I would prefer far away from my elbows.
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Old 04-08-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Parkchester.
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I never saw anyone selling phones on any corner in Parkchester. While 75% of Parkchester could still be upgraded to an entirely safe population (without changing the income level), it is already 25% excellent and 75% okay (by my estimate, derived mostly from educational levels), which is far better than the Bronx average. Again, I do believe that the level of education is still the best screening marker for anybody's neighbors. An education-oriented community, no matter how poor, is always acceptably safe.
This is probably the saddest post I’ve seen on here...
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Old 04-08-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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Probably CBTC on the 6 train and Penn Station Access would move things along in Parkchester pretty quickly.

Come on y’all, it’s time to Parkchester!
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Old 04-08-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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Having spent many years as a very poor person pursuing very high education, I am aware how important to that kind of person is an information about cheap yet decent (and even historically architecturally significant) place to live. The types of people that I am talking about are postdoctoral fellows/junior researchers in basic sciences, medical residents, and people with careers in humanities at every level. Many, very many of such people are immigrants (like me) or come from limited means in the US (including minorities and first-generation college graduates). There are high quality people with very little money, and very limited earning potential within the first 5-10 years of their career, or in case of humanities, ever. Some retirees from the world of academia fall into this category of high quality people with low means too. These people (in many ways similar to me) are the ones who should know about Parkchester.

One has to be dumb as a doorknob, a total imbecile with an IQ well below the level of an ape, to compare the kind of people described above with billionaires. SeventhFloor, what kind of "moderator" are you, allowing a city living forum, that is presumably supposed to be informative about city living, to get infested with a million of idiotic threads in which the same 5-6 people just keep repeating forever the same very stupid and unfunny "joke"?


Hes the people's m0d ...
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Old 04-08-2018, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Parkchester.
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Not everybody has kids. There are people who do not have them yet, people whose kids have grown up/left home, and people who just do not care much for kids at all.
This statement right here proves you have no idea who gentrification works affluent buyers/renters demand good schools wether or not they have kids right now. These are the type of people who plan for the future. Investing in a neighborhood with a serious school problem is just a bad investment.
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