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Old 04-16-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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He is, however the Deep-State which is made of conservatives, liberals and so forth who have been employed for the Federal, and state governments for nearly 40 years are still employed the such agencies. These folks run things as they see fit. Want Trump wants, he wont get, which in my opinion is a good thing.
LOL @ thinking Trump has a coherent foreign policy philosophy
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Old 04-16-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Trump is very close to being removed from office.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Deep state? That's Alex Jones level garbage, if he wanted to keep us out if war he woukd have.
Lol, I don't watch Alex Jones. I dislike Alex Jones. You don't read or understand Geopolitics. Let me grill on you something real quickly. The deep state are long term policy makers regardless of who is the ruler or even ruling class! Deep State can be a federal or even a state employee. Who are Deep State persons for example. A good example is Henry Kissenger on the federal level, for a state like here in NYS, Robert Moses with transportation. Some folks just don't retire.


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Old 04-16-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Legit issues, back in the day.......
1. Crime and violence in the hoods, like crazy, with cries going unanswered
2. Segregation/Fear of getting chased and/or stomped in the wrong neighborhood and/or after school
3. Bad services in the hoods (sanitation, snow sweep, dumping)

Legit issues, now.....
1. High cost of living; poor no longer can afford
2. Still segregated neighborhoods/schools
3. Still discriminatory real estate practices
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: JC
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Don’t know where you are from but that is a pretty ignorant and snobbish comment. One most certainly can live a middle class lifestyle without being “high tech.” You are probably living in your coastal elitist bubble.

And there are 300+ million people in this country. Not every one of those people can be or should be doing ”tech” work. Unless you can eat and wear “tech” I say there will always be a need for “repetitive low skill work.”

Funny how the coastal liberals like yourself like to put down “low skill” workers but readily go to Starbucks (manned by low skill workers) and prefer to buy handmade crafts from artisan shops (also made by blue collar workers). Ignorant snobs.
I'm not sure what you mean by "tech" work. Thousands of high paying jobs in NYC are not anything I'd call tech be it fashion, fiance, law, etc.

The day where a man can comfortably raise a whole family doing a repetitive factory task is done. Most of those jobs are being given to robots or sent to cheap labor countries. My father raised 5 children with only his income from QC at the former Raymark factory in Stratford. That same factory is long razed and replaced with a Wal-Mart. The tasks my father did have been replaced by robotics in every automotive plant.

The modern workforce is increasingly services, retail, and healthcare. This isn't SJW or liberal nonsense.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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I'm not sure what you mean by "tech" work. Thousands of high paying jobs in NYC are not anything I'd call tech be it fashion, fiance, law, etc.

The day where a man can comfortably raise a whole family doing a repetitive factory task is done. Most of those jobs are being given to robots or sent to cheap labor countries. My father raised 5 children with only his income from QC at the former Raymark factory in Stratford. That same factory is long razed and replaced with a Wal-Mart. The tasks my father did have been replaced by robotics in every automotive plant.

The modern workforce is increasingly services, retail, and healthcare. This isn't SJW or liberal nonsense.
Your father’s factory may be gone from CT but there are plenty in other right-to-work, non-union, low tax states. Just because the Left drove out manufacturing in blue states with high taxes, and high costs doesn’t mean manufacturing is dead.

Everything you snooty libs buy online has to be manufactured. Manufacturing will never go away. NYC’s finance industry may one day go away but people 500 years from now will still need things. Things like televisions, shoes, chairs, toothbrushes, hammers, sunglasses, etc.
These all need to be manufactured and no a robot cannot just start making them. Humans has to start somewhere and in every point along the way, you need humans.

NYC and its high paying jobs are just a drop in the bucket compared to the overall larger US economy. Not everyone can or should be in “fashion, finance, law.” Those are very niche fields that are only found in a handful of major cities in the world.

Robotics can only do so much. Many products cannot be automated or can never be fully automated, especially low volume, high detailed items. Despite what the media has been selling you, there are millions and millions of jobs out there that cannot be done by robots. Whatever that can be done by automation has already been automated. What’s left cannot.

Most of the rest of the world do not live in the kind of snotty, hoity toity high paying industries. You need to go see the rest of the world more.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Robots are expensive. More expensive than people.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Bernie and Trump have very similar policy. They just have a very different deliverance of it. One is passive aggressive, while the other is extremely blunt.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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Your father’s factory may be gone from CT but there are plenty in other right-to-work, non-union, low tax states. Just because the Left drove out manufacturing in blue states with high taxes, and high costs doesn’t mean manufacturing is dead.

Everything you snooty libs buy online has to be manufactured. Manufacturing will never go away. NYC’s finance industry may one day go away but people 500 years from now will still need things. Things like televisions, shoes, chairs, toothbrushes, hammers, sunglasses, etc.
These all need to be manufactured and no a robot cannot just start making them. Humans has to start somewhere and in every point along the way, you need humans.

NYC and its high paying jobs are just a drop in the bucket compared to the overall larger US economy. Not everyone can or should be in “fashion, finance, law.” Those are very niche fields that are only found in a handful of major cities in the world.

Robotics can only do so much. Many products cannot be automated or can never be fully automated, especially low volume, high detailed items. Despite what the media has been selling you, there are millions and millions of jobs out there that cannot be done by robots. Whatever that can be done by automation has already been automated. What’s left cannot.

Most of the rest of the world do not live in the kind of snotty, hoity toity high paying industries. You need to go see the rest of the world more.
Having lived in red states, for obvious reasons retail and service sector jobs still outnumber industrial jobs. Obviously when a company manufacturers something, they need people to DELIVER and it SELL it and perhaps repair it (all these are service sector jobs). Someone needs to design the product and market it. Of course that company even in the factory will have human resources, accountants, engineers, managers, etc.

With that said manufacturing is important, because you can't have fashion without someone designing and literally making the clothes. Of course, the clothes are made out of materials like cotton, wool, and other natural and synthetic fibers. Technology has changed agriculture and industry, but you're right this isn't the Jetsons where they had perfectly intelligent robots do all the work.

With jobs like finance and law, small towns have banks and insurance, and lawyers. Financial and legal jobs are everywhere. And while designers and models are concentrated in just a few cities, via the retail industry people participate in fashion everywhere.

With that said you are right, everything bought online is clearly made somewhere, and not just physical products. Websites are designed and programmed by people, social media companies are created and maintained by people, and film, tv, and ads and created and starred in by people.
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Trump is very close to being removed from office.
If so, I'd argue it is being done by illegal means.
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