New Yorkers Get Ready, Starbucks Will Shut Down Nationwide! (Lee: store, homeless)
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Incorrect. You get paid a salary to post disinformation on this forum by shareblue. I'm not sure why you haven't been IP banned by the mods yet, but your time here with that account name is very limited.
Americans are sick of your dounblethink commie rhetoric.
You live in such a small bubble with no regard for how corporate American culture operates. What corporatations have you worked for that allows you to make such a broad misinformed assumption?
I've never hard of shareblue. You can ask the mods yourself, but I have been here for YEARS..............
For that matter, no one is the 21st century calls someone a commie. So you certainly sound like a paid Russian troll who doesn't even know modern American slang.
I'm no fan of Starbucks horrible excuse for coffee but I've noticed over the year's that they let people hang there for hours using the wifi, killing time, etc.
Why single out these 2 men? Why not just ask them to buy something or leave? Calling the cops is an extreme measure to use on loiterers.
I'm no fan of Starbucks horrible excuse for coffee but I've noticed over the year's that they let people hang there for hours using the wifi, killing time, etc.
Why single out these 2 men? Why not just ask them to buy something or leave? Calling the cops is an extreme measure to use on loiterers.
Which is exactly why there was such a huge outrage. Honestly at a lot of Starbucks they will just give you the code to use the bathroom. They could have done that, or said we'll give you the code to use the bathroom if you buy something. Clearly since Starbucks allows people to loiter they cannot use that as an excuse, which is why the company accepted responsiblity.
This may seem like over the top. But it is probably cheaper than settling out of court for 100s of civil lawsuits or a class action. Management was probably aware a class action was headed their way. As I explained on the restroom thread this is the only way they can mitigate damages and lighten the burden of preponderance of evidence.
This incident, they are on the wrong side of preponderance of evidence. Who knows how many more incidents they have on file just in the past couple of months of this calendar year alone. Given this heavy handed response - I am guessing there were HUNDREDS of outstanding complaints. Very interesting to see how this will play out.
They already won from the PR standpoint. United Airlines could take a page out of their playbook.
Which is exactly why there was such a huge outrage. Honestly at a lot of Starbucks they will just give you the code to use the bathroom. They could have done that, or said we'll give you the code to use the bathroom if you buy something. Clearly since Starbucks allows people to loiter they cannot use that as an excuse, which is why the company accepted responsiblity.
Due to the nature of the business model as well as the establishment purpose itself, Loitering is going to be an uphill battle to prove.
I'm no fan of Starbucks horrible excuse for coffee but I've noticed over the year's that they let people hang there for hours using the wifi, killing time, etc.
Why single out these 2 men? Why not just ask them to buy something or leave? Calling the cops is an extreme measure to use on loiterers.
According to this NY Times article, the men asked to use the bathroom, were told that it was only for paying customers, and then sat down without buying anything. The employees eventually asked them to leave and when the men refused, the employees called the police. The police asked the men to leave three times before arresting them.
According to this NY Times article, the men asked to use the bathroom, were told that it was only for paying customers, and then sat down without buying anything. The employees eventually asked them to leave and when the men refused, the employees called the police. The police asked the men to leave three times before arresting them.
I've never seen Starbucks require people to make a purchase. That's the problem, because what Starbucks did to those men was done consistently.
You also saw in those videos white customers saying that those men hadn't done anything. Employees never should have asked them to leave, and never should have called the cops.
Starbucks know this, which is why they are closed May 29 for training purposes.
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