NYC/LA/Sf-Oakland? (New York, York: apartments, how much, neighborhoods)

[vincentnyc]

actually spring and fall temp is pretty nice 60's-70's...love the fall though.

[whitechocolate86]

Originally Posted by vincentnyc

actually spring and fall temp is pretty nice 60's-70's...love the fall though.

So, are you guys wearing t-shirts now during the day, when does t-shirt weather come? mid-march?

[vincentnyc]

unfortunately it is 48 degree right now..lol...won't be wearing t-shirt until mid-may...lol.

[Carbro]

Life on the platforms in the summer got much worse as a/c was introduced in the trains. The hot air gets pushed out into the tunnels and platforms and has little means of escape. If the stations were cooled, it would make the street level around them even more unbearable.

But it broke 60 yesterday, and I went out to do a few nearby errands in a cotton t-neck, no sweater or jacket, and was just fine.

Spring is a rare thing in New York. You jerk from winter, have a spring day, a few more winter days, a hot day, a spring day, a few winter days, two spring days, and then you're into summer. Or something like that.


I love New York. Really. Except for the weather.

[whitechocolate86]

Between miserable weather cities like Chicago and New York...would y'all choose New York over Chicago...assuming anyone has been to both? might not get a fair answer in this forum...lol

[holden125]

Originally Posted by whitechocolate86

Between miserable weather cities like Chicago and New York...would y'all choose New York over Chicago...assuming anyone has been to both? might not get a fair answer in this forum...lol

Chicago is more affordable, but our winters don't compare to theirs at all. Chicago is a truly bitter cold place in winter. On that score alone I'd choose NYC. I'd choose NYC anyway, even if the climates were even. New York has more to offer and, at least to me, more pizazz.

Climate aside, Chicago is a pretty decent slightly lower-cost alternative if you're not allergic to the midwest.

[Carbro]

What's a midwest?

[emroyka]

Originally Posted by whitechocolate86

If I may ask, the climate has been portrayed to me by residents on this site in NYC as downright miserable...why did so many people settle in a poor climate...

I've long wondered why the most urban, vibrant, walkable cities are in the north...and meanwhile you have a state like California kind of wasting its beautiful weather by being so car dependent. Too bad it can't be the reverse!

But ITA about Chicago winters being much harsher. You get very little snow in the mid-Atlantic by comparison. It's still a great city though and worth considering.

[holden125]

Originally Posted by emroyka

I've long wondered why the most urban, vibrant, walkable cities are in the north...and meanwhile you have a state like California kind of wasting its beautiful weather by being so car dependent. Too bad it can't be the reverse!

But ITA about Chicago winters being much harsher. You get very little snow in the mid-Atlantic by comparison. It's still a great city though and worth considering.

Because California's population grew in a car era. San Francisco is the only place in California that truly resembles a city and its major period of initial growth was in the 1850s. They'd have to build things closer together to make California walkable. Too late for that in most places.

[weitau]

Originally Posted by UpsonDowns

A very wise woman once said to me:

If you are smart, you move to San Francisco.
If you are ambitious, you move to LA.
If you are smart and ambitious, you move to New York.

I grew up in one, went to college in another, live in the third and I agree completely.

This is very good! can I quote you?