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Old 04-28-2018, 06:42 PM
 
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I'll stick with Stout in Midtown. I'm sure they have a more expansive beer selection than one would find in Bedford Park.
Fascinating.
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:08 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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That would seem expensive.
There are a few things that make a pedestrian walkway more feasible.

Here’s a candidate spot:

near 2509 Webster Ave, Bronx, NY 10458
https://goo.gl/maps/V3JNf5w7chM2

This is on the other side of a continuation of an existing Fordham campus road. Fordham is already at a higher elevation than the tracks and there isn’t a huge ramp up necessary to provide enough clearance. On the other side of the tracks, there’s a good amount of room before it hits the pavement on Webster Avenue to go back down; you can ramp do a curved ramp down to the southwest if the clearance isn’t enough without stairs on the direct route. If they want a guarded entrance into campus, there’s enough room for it. A pedestrian walkway doesn’t need to be huge and bulky.

There’s a bus stop near there and a somewhat more direct walk to the Kingsbridge Road stations. It might be a sensible convenience.
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Old 04-28-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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There are a few things that make a pedestrian walkway more feasible.

Here’s a candidate spot:

near 2509 Webster Ave, Bronx, NY 10458
https://goo.gl/maps/V3JNf5w7chM2

This is on the other side of a continuation of an existing Fordham campus road. Fordham is already at a higher elevation than the tracks and there isn’t a huge ramp up necessary to provide enough clearance. On the other side of the tracks, there’s a good amount of room before it hits the pavement on Webster Avenue to go back down; you can ramp do a curved ramp down to the southwest if the clearance isn’t enough without stairs on the direct route. If they want a guarded entrance into campus, there’s enough room for it. A pedestrian walkway doesn’t need to be huge and bulky.

There’s a bus stop near there and a somewhat more direct walk to the Kingsbridge Road stations. It might be a sensible convenience.
I guess depending on where it is, it could save a few minutes walk to the subway, but I don't know if that would be worth the expense.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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It does seem like it’d be sensible now to make a pedestrian walkway over the tracks to Webster Avenue somewhere between Fordham Road and Bedford Park Boulevard. Perhaps it should be considered as the neighborhood improves.
Fordham will never allow it. At least not until the whole are West of Webster,North of Fordham Rd and South of BP Blvd is totally cleaned up.

Unlike some other major Universities around the country, Fordham made the disastrous strategic decision back in the 60's and 70's to completely wall it's campus off from everything around it. Big mistake which will become more and more apparent in the next decade. They should have made the strategic decision to buy up all the real estate they could get their hands on.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:49 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Fordham will never allow it. At least not until the whole are West of Webster,North of Fordham Rd and South of BP Blvd is totally cleaned up.

Unlike some other major Universities around the country, Fordham made the disastrous strategic decision back in the 60's and 70's to completely wall it's campus off from everything around it. Big mistake which will become more and more apparent in the next decade. They should have made the strategic decision to buy up all the real estate they could get their hands on.
I considered Fordham for grad school (still am) but likely the Manhattan campus. The immediate area around Fordham Road is dirty and seedy. I don't blame them for walling it off. Beautiful campus, probably nicer than the Manhattan location on the Upper West Side.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I considered Fordham for grad school (still am) but likely the Manhattan campus. The immediate area around Fordham Road is dirty and seedy. I don't blame them for walling it off. Beautiful campus, probably nicer than the Manhattan location on the Upper West Side.
You could live in my neighborhood and go back and forth to Fordham by walking through The Botanical Garden and never seeing the real Bronx at all.

I grew up in Cambridge,Ma which in the 1960's looked like the dumpy parts of Wakefield. Harvard did the opposite of Fordham. They systematically bought up everything around them and kept expanding the circle further and further out. They took control of their surroundings rather than walling themselves off. When things began to change in the mid to late 80's they basically were in a position to completely reshape the city of Cambridge. Just a different mentality. As Belmont was sliding down, Fordham should have been buying up everything in sight.
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Old 04-29-2018, 04:58 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I grew up in Cambridge,Ma which in the 1960's looked like the dumpy parts of Wakefield. Harvard did the opposite of Fordham. They systematically bought up everything around them and kept expanding the circle further and further out. They took control of their surroundings . When things began to change in the mid to late 80's they basically were in a position to completely reshape the city of Cambridge. Just a different mentality.
Yes, you really can't compare. I don't think Fordham is looking to expand like say Columbia is. They're a small private school and from my interactions with them, they'd like to keep it that way. They're better than NYU and Columbia in that regard.
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Old 04-29-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Fordham will never allow it. At least not until the whole are West of Webster,North of Fordham Rd and South of BP Blvd is totally cleaned up.

Unlike some other major Universities around the country, Fordham made the disastrous strategic decision back in the 60's and 70's to completely wall it's campus off from everything around it. Big mistake which will become more and more apparent in the next decade. They should have made the strategic decision to buy up all the real estate they could get their hands on.
That area has a long way to go. Fordham feels good about it's involvement with POTs, but they're not going to make a bridge connecting to it -- they don't want that on campus.

Fordham's off-campus dorms are an eyesore. I don't understand how they take such care with the campus yet build so cheap and ugly off campus. I love Belmont but it's not the safest area is you veer of Arthur or 187th. I had a friend who moved from a building a couple of blocks north of Fordham Rd to a place a block south of 187th and was surprised by how dangerous it was because it looked so much nicer. For example, one day she was walking with her kids and this guy covered in blood ran past them, followed by a guy chasing him with a knife. True story.
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Old 04-29-2018, 06:48 AM
 
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You could live in my neighborhood and go back and forth to Fordham by walking through The Botanical Garden and never seeing the real Bronx at all.

I grew up in Cambridge,Ma which in the 1960's looked like the dumpy parts of Wakefield. Harvard did the opposite of Fordham. They systematically bought up everything around them and kept expanding the circle further and further out. They took control of their surroundings rather than walling themselves off. When things began to change in the mid to late 80's they basically were in a position to completely reshape the city of Cambridge. Just a different mentality. As Belmont was sliding down, Fordham should have been buying up everything in sight.
I can't imagine what Belmont would look like now if Fordham had gotten it's hands on even more of it.
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Old 04-29-2018, 06:52 AM
 
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Yes, you really can't compare. I don't think Fordham is looking to expand like say Columbia is. They're a small private school and from my interactions with them, they'd like to keep it that way. They're better than NYU and Columbia in that regard.
Fordham has built lots of housing on the west side of the campus (which is beautiful by the way) and Fordham's presence in Belmont is continually expanding. Has their enrollment not increased as well? Seems unlikely.
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