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Old 09-18-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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I'll be one of those lone voices in the wildnerness and say that I hope Amazon comes here. Making NYC "Affordable" isn't the end-all-be-all of public policy. The tax revenue and job growth from having new buisness creation/relocation is critical to helping our poorer citizens. Same with more housing growth.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:25 PM
 
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He has Presidential aspirations.
Higher chance he will hop on his Blue Origin to space
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:34 PM
 
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I'll be one of those lone voices in the wildnerness and say that I hope Amazon comes here. Making NYC "Affordable" isn't the end-all-be-all of public policy. The tax revenue and job growth from having new buisness creation/relocation is critical to helping our poorer citizens. Same with more housing growth.
Haha, how much money does NYC needs and yet it has never fix anything. NYC has so much tax revenue from Wall Street yet the infrastructure here is crumbling and requires more tax payer taxation to help fix it.

Not to mention Amazon doesn't pay taxes, if it comes to NYC or NJ they will be rewarded with huge tax breaks and incentives. The only tax revenue will come from Amazon workers and additional business activities it generates. It hardly compares to what Wall Street brings and NYC will keep spending and pretend that it can't afford anything and needs more taxes. Democrats have always leaned on a tax and spend policy and redistribution of money to assist the poor and it will create more social welfare programs while the middle class gets the squeeze, flee, or cheat on their taxes to avoid being crushed by NYC taxes.
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Old 09-18-2018, 07:52 PM
 
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Haha, how much money does NYC needs and yet it has never fix anything. NYC has so much tax revenue from Wall Street yet the infrastructure here is crumbling and requires more tax payer taxation to help fix it.

Not to mention Amazon doesn't pay taxes, if it comes to NYC or NJ they will be rewarded with huge tax breaks and incentives. The only tax revenue will come from Amazon workers and additional business activities it generates. It hardly compares to what Wall Street brings and NYC will keep spending and pretend that it can't afford anything and needs more taxes. Democrats have always leaned on a tax and spend policy and redistribution of money to assist the poor and it will create more social welfare programs while the middle class gets the squeeze, flee, or cheat on their taxes to avoid being crushed by NYC taxes.
I agree. The polticians obsession with taxing more & more for their redistribution wet dream is out of control.
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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Only way Amazon will make their HQ2 in NYC or even state is after Albany and City Hall milk millions if not billions "for the poor" out of that company.


This could take many forms from employment guarantees for the "poor, disadvantaged, low skilled, minorities (blacks and Latino/Hispanic only, not Asians), to funds for housing, education and a whole wish list of liberal/democratic/progressive wet dreams to benefit same.


Like Microsoft and other large tech firms wherever Amazon goes will cause vast economic disruption as large numbers of well to very well compensated employees descend en masse. Seattle, Silicon Valley, etc... all have seen this behavior.


Yes, Amazon will get "something" if they chose NYC, but with the current mayor, city council speaker, city council and governor you can bet hands are rubbing together and much salivating going on about how much they can get for *theirs*.


None of this even begins to touch what passes for normal way things are done in this city and state. Unions, elected officials, party bosses, local community boards, etc... everyone would want their taste.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:03 PM
 
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I actually don't know what Bezos' political ideology is, but like many Silicon Valley execs, he is either a classical liberal, a libertarian, or an Ayn Rand objectivist. A lot of average people fall into the two tribal camps, as though you can only be a Democrat or a Republican. If you are not on my sports team, you must be on the other side! But of course this is not the case for most people who actually studied or have been exposed to relevant political concepts and works.
Seriously... yes, you have to register for one of the two major political parties if you want to have a voice. And probably one or the other will have more appeal.

But their platforms are a bit of an arbitrary hodgepodge, and anyone with critical thinking skills might hold some views that are liberal, some libertarian, and some conservative.

What is wrong with having nuanced views?

Why can't Bezos be liberal on issues like immigration, lgbt rights, science not being a hoax, etc, and libertarian on others (weed should be legal), and still have a basic econ 101 understanding that while there is a place for government and some wealth redistribution is good, at the same time centrally planned economies do not work, and confiscatory taxes on businesses or individuals have negative consequences?
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