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Old 05-19-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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Besides the three new second avenue stations, there’s Hudson Yards, World Trade Center, and Fulton transit center.

I didn’t say to add elevators, although that has been done. Just pointing out that they are required in new stations.
Those stations are all wheelchair accessible I believe.
Word trade center/Fulton was rebuilt only because of 9/11, not technically a new station.

The problem is our transit system is older than other transit systems around the world. Like Seven states, it usually cost more to renovate an old house rather than build a new one from scratch.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Those stations are all wheelchair accessible I believe.
Word trade center/Fulton was rebuilt only because of 9/11, not technically a new station.

The problem is our transit system is older than other transit systems around the world. Like Seven states, it usually cost more to renovate an old house rather than build a new one from scratch.
Oh, that's good, because I think we could use some all new lines.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:19 PM
 
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It cost them 1.4 billion dollars to do the Fulton hub

Meanwhile the trains run like sh*t
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Those stations are all wheelchair accessible I believe.
Word trade center/Fulton was rebuilt only because of 9/11, not technically a new station.

The problem is our transit system is older than other transit systems around the world. Like Seven states, it usually cost more to renovate an old house rather than build a new one from scratch.
Yes, the point that I have been making is that new stations are required to be accessible by the ADA. IINM even rebuilt stations are required to be made accessible if a dollar threshold is reached.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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It cost them 1.4 billion dollars to do the Fulton hub

Meanwhile the trains run like sh*t
And they never even tried to connect the PATH train to the 6 to get that silver lining!
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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And they never even tried to connect the PATH train to the 6 to get that silver lining!
Can PATH trains run on IRT lines? The trains are very similar in size, although not identical. Not sure about the power.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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And they never even tried to connect the PATH train to the 6 to get that silver lining!
I mean you can transfer to the 4/5 from the PATH easy now

You can walk from the PATH all the way to Chambers Street undergound now

Its kinda cool

We need more
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:03 PM
 
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And they never even tried to connect the PATH train to the 6 to get that silver lining!
Mta is known for putting expensive lipstick on a pig
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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Can PATH trains run on IRT lines? The trains are very similar in size, although not identical. Not sure about the power.
Yea, apparently there's good compatibility between the two systems as both trains have the same loading gauges (and track gauge and electrical system). The 6 train instead of using its City Hall loop and the WTC-bound PATH train instead of doing a terminal and backing in and out could have instead created a through-running operation. In the aftermath of 9/11, there was a proposal that since they needed to do a ton of reconstruction in the area then this might be the chance to connect them. I forget what agency had proffered the idea initially, but it obviously didn't happen.

It would have made a lot of sense if there was ever a way to get PATH and NYC Subway to work out a better joint fare model (still makes sense to do that now). Fewer transfers made and the lower dwell time of people within the system means less overall crowding in the overall transit system and shorter commutes and wasted time for individuals.

Found a link: https://newyorkyimby.com/2014/09/the...never-was.html

Port Authority shut down the conversation.

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Old 05-19-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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Am sorry, but buses are the place for those with mobility issues. They already slow things down there, don't want more of them clogging up the subways.


Then there is the fact only disabled persons have seen in wheelchairs in the subway system are the same panhandlers, beggars, and other assorted indigent.


Besides we're talking about narrow trains that run mostly underground. Bad enough you have parents with strollers clogging up already crowded trains; but you want to add more wheelchairs as well? That is a recipe for disaster; suppose something happens and people need to exit quickly/run for cover?
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