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Old 07-07-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Aside from the fact most transplants aren't actually from Ohio

Ohio is a poor state compared to New York, Ohio's hoods are way more dangerous than New York's, and Ohio is not completely devoid of culture. Bone Thugs n Harmony are from there, as well as the 2nd greatest basketball player of all time. Cincinatti and Cleveland seem like cool cities, and you don't have to sell a kidney to afford the rents there. So I think the whole anti-Ohio sentiment many New Yorkers have is silly.

If anything, Native New Yorkers from the wealthier parts of NYC as well as the suburbs are the biggest contributors to gentrification. Followed by transplants from the "cool" states like Massachusetts and California.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:06 PM
 
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One thing I notice is that some New Yorkers who barely leave their neighborhood or NYC talk down on places they've never been to. How can people who don't travel be so sure that the resf of the country sucks?
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Agreed! I bet there are a lot of way cool places in the U.S. outside NYC. Philly for example is my favorite city in the entire country.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Agreed! I bet there are a lot of way cool places in the U.S. outside NYC. Philly for example is my favorite city in the entire country.
Philly is dope. I've been there 5 times and I love it. I love New Orleans and I like DC too. These places are just as "cultured" as NYC is.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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NYC isn't the center of the world.

But there are too many damn Midwesterners here. And they don't know how to walk down the street.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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NYC isn't the center of the world.

But there are too many damn Midwesterners here. And they don't know how to walk down the street.
The only places that would be an issue are the touristy parts of Manhattan. That shouldn't apply to you because I thoughr you only liked outskirt neighborhoods.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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Philly is dope. I've been there 5 times and I love it. I love New Orleans and I like DC too. These places are just as "cultured" as NYC is.
Yup! In 2018, NYC is not the only place with culture anymore. Almost everything you get here you can get anywhere else. I am a die hard NY native and I want to live in NY forever, but I've lived in other places around the world and have been happy there too.

I've lived on Long Island for college, and I've lived in like 6 towns in Italy. You can enjoy a nice life anywhere and in many respects life in NYC sucks. It's home for me though.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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New Yorkers don't like Ohio?

To be honest, your thoughts on Ohio come across as rather backhanded in some ways, OP. Poor Ohio is not. Is it as fabulously wealthy as NYC? No, but then again nearly no other place is. It has the 7th largest state GDP in the country, which lines up with the fact that it's also the 7th most populous state.

And of course Ohio is not devoid of culture. Both Cleveland and Cincinnati are legacy cities with all the cultural institutions that that entails. This also doesn't take into account museums you'll find in the state's smaller cities. Also on the educational side, the state is home Case Western, Ohio State, Kenyon, Oberlin, etc.

My guess is that Ohio is probably a punching bag since it lacks a single superstar city and it has probably become code for alleged bland middle America. The reality is that Columbus is booming, Cincinnati (both city and metro) is growing again, and Cleveland appears to finally have found its footing and is rounding the corner.

Ohio probably doesn't send nearly as many people NYC's way as its residents assume. According to this, California sends the most people to New York. In the Midwest, Chicago is sending the most. Neither Ohio or its cities popped up.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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New Yorkers don't like Ohio?

To be honest, your thoughts on Ohio come across as rather backhanded in some ways, OP. Poor Ohio is not. Is it as fabulously wealthy as NYC? No, but then again nearly no other place is. It has the 7th largest state GDP in the country, which lines up with the fact that it's also the 7th most populous state.

And of course Ohio is not devoid of culture. Both Cleveland and Cincinnati are legacy cities with all the cultural institutions that that entails. This also doesn't take into account museums you'll find in the state's smaller cities. Also on the educational side, the state is home Case Western, Ohio State, Kenyon, Oberlin, etc.

My guess is that Ohio is probably a punching bag since it lacks a single superstar city and it has probably become code for alleged bland middle America. The reality is that Columbus is booming, Cincinnati (both city and metro) is growing again, and Cleveland appears to finally have found its footing and is rounding the corner.

Ohio probably doesn't send nearly as many people NYC's way as its residents assume. According to this, California sends the most people to New York. In the Midwest, Chicago is sending the most. Neither Ohio or its cities popped up.
I agree with everything you're saying. By "poor" I just mean that it's less prosperous than NY and not a wealthy state sending a bunch of wealthy white kids to gentrify minority neighborhoods in NYC. Nothing about my post was backhanded, the whole point was that Ohio is not a bad state and that New Yorkers who don't travel at all shouldn't look down on it.

And anti-gentrification activists and geezer communists use Ohio as a punching bag in the way that you're referring to, that's what I meant.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:10 PM
 
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Yup! In 2018, NYC is not the only place with culture anymore. Almost everything you get here you can get anywhere else. I am a die hard NY native and I want to live in NY forever, but I've lived in other places around the world and have been happy there too.

I've lived on Long Island for college, and I've lived in like 6 towns in Italy. You can enjoy a nice life anywhere and in many respects life in NYC sucks. It's home for me though.
Yep! There are other places in the country that are just as diverse as NYC.
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